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I think the reason I liked the Heath Ledger joker so much besides the performance itself was that they deliberately screwed around creating an unreliable origin story. The fact that he tells multiple contradictory stories is the best part.
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I’m not motivated to watch the new Joker partly because the premise of a whiny incel/red pill/mass shooter type newsy contemporary justification sounds tedious, but mainly because it collapses the wave function. The origin indeterminacy feels essential to the Joker character.
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