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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Nils Gilman‏ @nils_gilman 16 Sep 2019
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      pic.twitter.com/8Jhz7dp3ar

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      what I am secretly trying to get at visualizing is a view of cities as space stations in some conceptual interstellar space, where the more dense+technological they are, the further away they are

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    3. Azad AF‏ @azadag 16 Sep 2019
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      dense/technological on what metric? Further they are away from each other or dispersed from their Central core?

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      I shoulda threaded my thoughts on this... I have a bunch of scattered thoughts on my TL from last night.https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1173405248641069056 …

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      Graph I’d like to see: x-axis, log population of urban region, y-axis, measure of tech built-up-ness (per capita weighted index of electricity+water+concrete+steel+gasoline+diesel). Preferably with data points plotted as tiny little city skylines against dark starry backdrop.
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    5. Azad AF‏ @azadag 16 Sep 2019
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      hmm I would look at "global cities metrics" (dumbed down from Soja's theorizing) because they try to incorporate this stuff, otherwise you may need to see who has summarized satellite land-use / land cover data (search phrase: NVLD) and/or combined it with industrial zoning.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      That would be of interest to quants, but metrics-based legibilization of techno-urbanism always hits a wall. For me, the metrics are just a means to a sort of narrative/qualitative end: getting a more poetic rather than wonky/quant sense of what "urbanization" means. A portrait.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      Really what urbanism needs is the kind of thing Wolfram called a computational essay. Somewhere between the narrative poetry of say Caro's book on Moses and the endless slicing and dicing with metrics. A right-brained way to grok the nature of the beast.

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    8. Azad AF‏ @azadag 16 Sep 2019
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      lol do you want some links, lots of links, or even more links? It's been done and redone over 50 years and it also doesn't help you end-run politics or any of the wicked problems in planning and urban issues.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      Oh that doesn't interest me at all. I'm not trying to actually solve any problems. Besides perhaps making up interesting views of cities for some of my science fiction experiments.

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    10. Azad AF‏ @azadag 16 Sep 2019
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      hmm try some of these https://www.fastcompany.com/90245781/a-gorgeous-visualization-of-commutes-around-the-world … http://bigbytes.mobyus.com/commute.aspx 

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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      Oh the fastcompany one is very nice

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Sep 2019
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          That's the sort of thing I find interesting. Something that gets at the organic+artificial anatomy of a city, in the context of more than its spatial context. Spatio-economic context perhaps. And evolving in time. Almost a game-of-life type thing.

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        3. Azad AF‏ @azadag 16 Sep 2019
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          Look at Michael batty's work / research group at UCL. Citylab has a maps newsletter that you can delve through. 'urban form' another keyword.

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