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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Sep 2019
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      Only 3 kinds of people appear to be left in Woke: 1. Psychopaths trying to take control of/harvest dying Blue institutions 2. Idiots executing broken NPC robot scripts 3. Après nous, le déluge types who feel like they're the last line of defense against Hobbesian bloodshed

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    2. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 9 Sep 2019
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      I consider myself meta-woke. I acknowledge the harmful systems, and view wokeness as a natural backlash amplified by media optimized for engagement. The bullied found a means of fighting back, and it looks a lot like bullying. But the shit they're responding to is real.

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    3. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 9 Sep 2019
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      There are equilibriums being shifted. If you want out, though, you need to achieve escape velocity into meta. Get above it, observe the landscape, and see the systems. Don't buy too hard into one narrative or another.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Sep 2019
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      This is a bullshit conceit, but if you have the resources for it, a comforting one

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    5. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 9 Sep 2019
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      Which part is bullshit? Do you mind clarifying?

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Sep 2019
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      That meta-woke is a helpful thing to be to anyone besides yourself. It's just another direction of retreat. Which is fine. Retreat is a fine strategy and one I practice myself along a different vector.

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    7. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 9 Sep 2019
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      If someone says they're a victim of systemic racism, I don't help them by being woke with them, nor do I help them by denying their experience. I help them by acknowledging that the systems to which they are referring exist, and it sucks, and "I'm sorry you had that experience."

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Sep 2019
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      It's fine. But getting to "I'm sorry you had that experience" requires no meta-ness. Just basic compassion plus avoiding any deeper involvement (which is where I land too, just via a different path)

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        1. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 9 Sep 2019
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          My personal journey was obliviousness -> beginning to see the systems -> starting descent into wokeness -> seeing the darker side of wokeness -> focus on compassion -> meta-wokeness. I still want to solve the systems. That desire won't go away.

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