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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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      Laissez-faire was planned, planning was not — Polyani Flexworking was planned, 9-5 was not — me When you look at the history, it’s amazing how much the synchronized monotemporality of ~1884-1984 was largely an emergent convergence towards a global equilibrium temporality

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    2. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 7 Sep 2019
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      9-5 was definitely planned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day …

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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      In the narrow sense of work hours, yes. I mean it as a synecdoche for entire synchronized clock culture.

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    4. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 7 Sep 2019
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      That one's on railway companies. I do see your larger point: the whole culture today is an evolved thing, not a designed one. But it evolved from lots of individual designs, like train timetables and the labor movement. Saying it wasn't designed seems . . . off.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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      See rest of the thread, that’s my point

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    6. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 7 Sep 2019
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      Not quite, but the point you're making there is far more interesting than my nit-picking here. Sorry, shoulda kept reading before I replied.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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      I do agree with your point that “unplanned” is overstating the case. I let the temptation to rhyme with the polyani quote get the better of me 🙂 Probably won’t use use that for polished argument

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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      In relative terms though, the murder of monotemporality was much more planned top down, with flexwork as synecdoche for resulting atemporal state

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        2. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 7 Sep 2019
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          At first. And then . . . evolution and unintended consequences. Like the gigwork economy, populist strife triggered by economic vulnerability, and VC-financed software giants feeding hackers billions of zero-day bugs to exploit. It may have worked, but now it's just works.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Sep 2019
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          I don’t think the neolibs in the Washington consensus era were even concerned with thinking that far ahead. I think they had 4 very tactical goals: survive collapse of USSR, beat back Japan, control emerging economies, keep profits growing. Executed as agile murder sprints 😆

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