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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Pardis Noorzad‏ @djpardis 20 Aug 2019
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      It takes them a while to realize but they always end up getting rid of the jerks. Naturally, a CEO would trust the person they hired directly more than others. But the goal should be to take action as quickly as they can when they realize that person is breaking the company.

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    2. Pardis Noorzad‏ @djpardis 20 Aug 2019
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      The businesses you speak of are not exactly thriving. The only reason why companies succeed is because they can successfully align a group of people to work as a team.

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    3. Heidi N. Moore‏Verified account @moorehn 20 Aug 2019
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      These are the largest companies in the world. Apple. General Electric. J.p. morgan.

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    4. Heidi N. Moore‏Verified account @moorehn 20 Aug 2019
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      I have seen jerks outlast literally everyone, for years, because the good people have options and leave. You can't lie to yourself. This is a systemic, persistent, problem of patriarchal reinforcement of abusive qualities. @cindygallop has spoken about it.

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    5. Heidi N. Moore‏Verified account @moorehn 20 Aug 2019
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      And I say that not to discourage you, because I agree that teamwork should be central. But without a realistic appraisal of the scale of this, the persistence of it, it's impossible to solve it. You have to see it clearly to understand why it's so difficult. Abuse *pays*.

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    6. Pardis Noorzad‏ @djpardis 20 Aug 2019
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      You are right that this is systematic and lasts for a long time before it is actioned upon, even when it doesn't make sense financially. I do appreciate your honesty and your time. You've given me a lot to think about and learn more about. You are awesome! 🙏🙏🙏

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    7. Peter Wang‏ @pwang 20 Aug 2019
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      Have any of you read The Gervais Principle by @vgr? It's the most accurate and insightful look into *why* large organizations scale & endure, by normalizing a certain sociopathy.https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ …

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    8. peteskomoroch‏Verified account @peteskomoroch 20 Aug 2019
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      This rings true, good link. I’ve seen some companies avoid this Gervais problem to a degree by being more metric focused and brutally honest about real results. Although, that doesn’t lower the “brilliant jerk” quotient.

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    9. Peter Wang‏ @pwang 20 Aug 2019
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      Yes, one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet in my reading (maybe covered in later chapters?) is the effect that strong mission-oriented leadership *can* create an organizational alignment that overcomes the Gervais hierarchy. It's necessary but not sufficient.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 Aug 2019
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      Pournelle’s iron law of bureaucracy suggests this can’t happen. https://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html …

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      What people think of as “strong mission-oriented org” one of two things is happening: Either the mission is bullshit B-Corp corporate virtue signaling and is all theater OR there is an asshole at the top, whose jerk qualities are masked under charisma except to direct reports.

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        1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 Aug 2019
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          I have never met an org of the first type where the rank-and-file actually buy the bills hit theater. I wrote this about the latter “asshole at the top” syndrome a few years after the fervais series.https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2013/09/12/the-exercise-of-authoritah/ …

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        2. Peter Wang‏ @pwang 21 Aug 2019
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          At scale, perhaps you are right and not being reductive. I think smaller (< 1 Dunbar) organizations call actually be mission aligned, but in a sense they are cults. I think it is possible to reframe the Gervais/Whyte paradigm in terms of "maintaining inter-subjective reality".

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        3. Peter Wang‏ @pwang 21 Aug 2019
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          The reason we call the top of the pyramid "sociopaths" is because they are actively exporting & driving a different set of narrative realities than what the people within the org may perceive with their own senses *but refracted through the lens of prior experience*.

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        1. GIRLAPPROVED‏ @girlapproved_US 21 Aug 2019
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          Look into MIT MEDIA LAB.. giving prize to @METOO for scientist.. this year. while patnering with Epstein

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