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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @CantHardyWait @patwater @robinhanson

      There is something there but I’m wary of directly deriving political and spiritual from economic and material. Like I said I think the former has an independent foundation and process character that must be modeled separately and then coupled in.

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    2. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @vgr @CantHardyWait @patwater

      "must be modeled separately and then coupled in" - but that's exactly what futarchy does.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @robinhanson @CantHardyWait @patwater

      Sounds like it suggests a coupling *mechanism* (betting on beliefs) but does not model or design for belief processes per se. This is what I think models like those of Fukuyama achieve that those of economists generally do not, or do so in a caricatured way.

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    4. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @vgr @CantHardyWait @patwater

      Yes, what we need are good mechanisms, not models.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @robinhanson @CantHardyWait @patwater

      I disagree. We need both and and at all 3 loci: economics, politics, and the coupling between them. Otherwise you just create runaway choice pressure and mechanisms that collapse under the weight of choice complexity.

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    6. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @vgr @CantHardyWait @patwater

      I read your words, but just don't understand what you mean.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @robinhanson @CantHardyWait @patwater

      I’m fine being misunderstood/not understood/dismissed as incoherent or nonsensical for long periods by most people. I’m like Amazon that way. Perhaps we’ll discover common ground some day in the future to discuss this more 🙂

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    8. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @vgr @CantHardyWait @patwater

      I'm open to a direct voice or video conversation. Text is much worse medium for getting past lack of understanding.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @robinhanson @CantHardyWait @patwater

      Thanks for the offer, perhaps I’ll take you up on it if this line of thought develops much more seriously for me. For the moment I need to continue in a lightweight conversational mode with those who intuitively get what I’m driving at here.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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      That’s ok. My own rate never tops 10%. I usually understand what I’m saying only 5 years later.

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