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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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    Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Jonathan Korman

    Hmm I think this would actually be a step backwards... direct democracy is technically and technologically more primitive than representative democracy and far less capable of handling modernity. Witness the quagmire of ballot initiative politics.https://twitter.com/miniver/status/1157712352113938432 …

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    I have been muttering about “radical liberal democracy” for a while now. Surely we can come up with more democratic institutions than infrequent votes for representatives.
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      2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 3 Aug 2019
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        Plus monarch transition is historically a huge problem, and one where even the best monarchs tend to go insane regarding the superiorities of their kin over everyone else. (We even saw something similar in Bush I's blindness towards Bush II.)

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      2. Jonathan Korman‏ @miniver 3 Aug 2019
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        I concur that direct democracy is terrible. But what other democratic institutions are possible? Proportional representation schemes trivial with contemporary computation which were impossible in the 18th century? Legislation by jurors chosen by lot? What else?

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Aug 2019
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        I don’t know. Invention needed.

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      2. Nils Gilman‏ @nils_gilman 3 Aug 2019
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        Imagine a world where each of us to has a “personalized policy preference” algorithm: it polls us on our values and also harvests “revealed preferences” from our activities to provide us with our “informed” opinion (or non-opinion) on every policy matter.

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      3. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 3 Aug 2019
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        Imagine the power of the person who gets to write that algorithm... Can you say gerrymandering++...?

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      2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 3 Aug 2019
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        Isn't this an obsession over a basically unimportant detail? The problem is: what are you trying to achieve? To discover "the public will"? Which is defined and measured how? And how will your fancy new technology, whatever it is, prevent the pathologies of today? 1/

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      3. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 3 Aug 2019
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        Whether those are diffuse vs concentrated incentives, or spreading misinformation, or politicians preferring to spend time with the wealthy and charismatic rather than the poor and boring? //

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      2. Leon Markham‏ @humanleon 4 Aug 2019
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        I feel like Switzerland is not being discussed enough. Anecdata include (1) everyone who lives there seems to love it (2) they vote on everything (3) it seems to work (4) no-one knows who is in charge

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        Also (5) family feuds are started and maintained by stuff like having a local referendum to force someone’s grandma to pay money she can’t afford to get a local road unnecessarily resurfaced

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