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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      Ditto bureaucrats. Except instead of social proof, you deal in “technically correct” procedural truths. If you just go by the book, or follow precedent, 80% of the time you’ll be right for that context. And if not, be rewarded anyway.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      Here respect matters for solidarity+learning precedents by imitation. Meta-algorithm: Apply rule, with respect/disrespect to enforce authority/compliance If they are the “right” kind of people make easy exceptions learned by imitation If they are disrespectful, stick to rules.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      Hence interactions like this in my respect threadhttps://twitter.com/vgr/status/1155230362420727808?s=21 …

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      Interaction I’ve occasionally had with petty bureaucrat types: 1: They disrespect me without consequences 2: I don’t react beyond, keep my end civil 3: They get mad and escalate to add hurdles 4: I address hurdles but still have no genuine reaction 5. Now they’re really mad...
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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      The fascinating thing is that these 2 types are otherwise polar opposites: ultimate insiders in belly of the beast, creatures of its rules, vs ultimate outsiders, pushing blackbox buttons on the outside to learn exploits. Rule following regardless of effects vs. trial and error.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      What they share is a) disinterest and/or incapability in acquiring knowledge and b) significant use of respect and social mechanisms (social proof or procedural technical correctness) to mitigate lack of knowledge

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      People who put in more work to acquire actual knowledge on the other hand, tend to slowly wean themselves off respect-based social epistemology mechanisms. This is the nerd instinct. The drive to actually look inside blackbox. To learn how it works rather than just how to work it

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      Nerds can of course have their own insecurities and internal respect competitions, but fundamentally actually wanting to know how something works regardless of whether it can be exploited without such knowledge: that’s the nerd instinct.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      Appreciative knowledge for its own sake, regardless of instrumental utility. 80% of the time, this means same outcomes at higher cost relative to bureaucrats or scenesters.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      20% of the time, you might be right and even then 80% of those cases it might not matter because rewards are tied to the social mechanisms like popular appeal or rules compliance. So nerdery might only be a winning posture 4% of the time net and you might never hit those cases.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      So to return to original question: there are 2 epistemologies here, and it’s not expert vs lay or insider vs outsider, It is respect-based epistemology vs nerdery-based epistemology.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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      let’s call those running on respect epistemology, whether insider bureaucrats or outsider button-pushers... Eloi. Surface [of knowledge] dwellers. Those who work to understand and pay a cost 96% of time, and win 4% when others lose: Morlocks Interior [of knowledge] dwellers.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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          In the short term the Eloi will generally win. In the long term, Morlocks will occasionally win big. Not 4% of the time, that’s just being right when others are wrong and it mattering. It also has to matter in a big way to make up for steady costs. So about 0.32% maybe.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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          By this it is not at all clear that Morlocks have long-term evolutionary advantage, contra both H. G. Wells and Neal Stephenson. The Eloi might prevail if things get lucky for them.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Jul 2019
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          Here’s a 2x2 of my afternoon’s thinkingpic.twitter.com/zAt4cPn8bq

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