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    1. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      I think this is one of these things that one doesn't HAVE to politicize, regardless of the outside world -- there is room for reasonable individuals to disagree. Are you OK with outsiders moving into Brazilian rain forest? Han moving into Tibet? Americans buying Mexican land?

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Jul 2019
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      As a military invasion (an adversarial social process) no. As a peaceful migration, yes. The specific point I’m firmly denying is claims of spiritual connection to place. “We know about this rainforest, learn from us” okay “This place is holy to us because blood in soil” no.

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    3. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      Ha! I'm like you I have very little patience with the "sacred lands of our ancestors" argument. But I am a lot more conflicted about arguments along the lines of "preserve our culture/ way of life/lifestyle". 1/

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    4. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      And of course I then have very little patience with "we want to preserve our TRADITIONAL way of life, but we also DESERVE goodies from modernity"... There are many many aspects to this -- which is why I'm even more against politicizing it than most issues. 2/

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    5. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      The fact that A disagrees with B does NOT mean B immediately gets to scream "racist xenophobe"... In the absence of further info both A and B don't have a clue what the true motivations are for the other's stance. //

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    6. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      Oh, one final point. As always, I think, the left has failed to think this one through. Yes, the first order effect of open borders is what it is. But then what? 1/

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    7. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      (a) If the social safety net is impossible to maintain it won't be maintained... (b) If all land, all property, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD can be bought by anyone, who's the winner in that? The guys with the most money? And the loser? The citizens of uber poor countries. 2/

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    8. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR... //

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Jul 2019
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      You should post this as a separate thread calling out actual people you think are arguing this. As a reply to my thread it comes across as knee jerk whataboutism around a strawman version of open borders. I have tweeted about my views on open borders elsewhere.

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    10. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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      That’s the problem with Twitter, of course 😀. The environment I’m seeing (including the most recent Dem debate) is different from the context you’re seeing. ..

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Jul 2019
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      You’re not exactly helping with an anon profile pic, and no details in bio to help people see where you are coming from.

      9:03 PM - 16 Jul 2019
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        2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 16 Jul 2019
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          The cool thing to say would be that my words should speak for themselves! But truth is I don’t care enough to choose a pic or write a bio. I tend to assume anyone who actually cares about me can read through my (massively opinionated) stream and get a feeling within a few tweets.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Jul 2019
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          “Words speak for themselves” is a bs line people trot out when they unconsciously want to avoid scrutiny. Unless you’re publishing math proofs. If you don’t care enough to give some indication of where you’re coming from, tbh I don’t care enough to engage.

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