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    1. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      “The game is the thing.” (Alan Macfarlane, The Making of the Modern World)pic.twitter.com/4R8zuO3qJW

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    2. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      really appreciating the perspective that takes hobbies, games, etc. as the load-bearing foundation of non-fascist civilization

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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      Hmm this seems a bit at odds with the perspectives in for eg. Huizenga or Geertz Deep Play (the part about demands of politics/kinship/faith being excluded... IME they strongly define the context of play folkways)

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    4. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      yeah this is something different - what makes it modern in his view is the decoupling from the other spheres

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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      So basically organized league style sports and games? The kind that peaked with Putnam's bowling-alone culture?

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    6. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      Putnam claimed it peaked in the 1950s iirc but I don't see why they can't exist in postmodernity (I'm on a sports league and I'm me lol)

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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      I'm trying to figure out how modern domestic-cozy subculture around indie board game nights or small groups of video-gamers is different from the bowling league stuff. The latter had a much more... tocquevillean I suppose... org culture. The former seems more intimate somehow

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    8. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      tocquevillean exactly - the intimate kind is demanding in a different way

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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      I think I make a distinction between group memberships which grant you things like membership cards and numbers (Gesellschaft orgs) and ones where your membership quality is a function of who networked you in, and how (Gemeinschaft orgs). Putnam was about the former in decline.

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    10. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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      oh my gosh MacFarlane makes exactly that distinction with the same German words

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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      Well, Tonnies *is* sort of like the Newton of sociology. You can't avoid his concepts in any analysis of such basic phenomena as gaming

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        2. Science Banana‏ @literalbanana 5 Jul 2019
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          what I want from games or clubs or whatever is the experience of everyone's natural healthy status drives being directed toward the group's ends - especially making better stories

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Jul 2019
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          I suspect that's a lifecycle phase (maybe 2nd quarter?) for orgs that start with the right initial conditions, and never even on the table with unhealthy ones.

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