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    1. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      If you don’t work in tech and you want tech to do a better job, please know this: we’re not all like how Tristan and Aza behave. We know we have to do better and we can’t do it on our own and we have at the very least a modicum of genuine humility.

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    2. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      OK, here’s 1 e.g. of why I’m calling bullshit: I think Tristan is a compelling speaker with an attractive argument that Design Has An Ethical Responsibility. But the thing is, design exists in context. You can’t design your way out of economic incentives to fuck people over.

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    3. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      The discussions I had with philanthropic organizations were very clear that you need to do the lobbying and the political work to encourage and enable regulation. I mean, I felt like that was OBVIOUS.

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    4. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      Yes, designers can do better, but jeez, from my POV, our entire western economic system is based around value extraction!

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    5. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      To see Harris & co get all this media coverage and not talk head-on about the reality of the environment and the *systemic issues* to me indicates that they’re a) breathtakingly naive, b) not serious, c) happy to just keep talking and speaking around the edges

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    6. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      Do as many TED talks as you like. It’s entirely different work to do the grimy political side of things and to recognize what other people will say: this behavior is economically rewarded and we have to *actually change that*.

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    7. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      I mean, that last Wired profile before CHT’s latest unveiling (the Human Downgrading tagline) was about as damning as you could get without them calling bullshit (which, I argue, we need!) Harris himself admitted to the crafting of the message being the most important thing!

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    8. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      I’m not saying it’s *not* important, but it LOOKS LIKE that’s what they’re spending most of their time on. And just NOW they’ve realized that they need to renegotiate their relationship with the humanities and social sciences? On *their* terms?!

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    9. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      Dan Hon Retweeted Aza Raskin

      To be absolutely clear, this conversation, and the one prompting it, is bullshit. If CHT are positioning themselves as the voice of, well, humane tech, then I think they’re being harmful:https://twitter.com/aza/status/1138536828909211648?s=21 …

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      Aza Raskin @aza
      Hi @zeynep, don’t think we have formally met yet. I both admire and am inspired by your work. What I hear you saying: an incredible amount of thought & work... fields and sub-fields and sub-sub-fields... have been dedicated to grappling with technology's interaction w society. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1138479527301210112 …
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    10. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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      Actually, now that I’m pissed off, in its worse case, the Center for Humane Tech is tech-washing. It’s being seen to care and do something while not actually doing anywhere near enough at all, and I’m terrified it’s self-serving.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 11 Jun 2019
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      I've made roughly the same criticism, though more politely than you :)

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        1. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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          It is Very Hot On The West Coast today, and insert a gif of Network, the movie, etc.pic.twitter.com/H9RyaYeLEZ

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 11 Jun 2019
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          I think the CHT gang mean well, but I at least have fundamental philosophical problems with their project, which necessitates tactics (shaming, susceptibility to techwashing) etc that I think we both have problems with. But the tactics follow from the philosophy.

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        3. Dan Hon‏ @hondanhon 11 Jun 2019
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          Yes. Same. Very much the same.

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