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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 May 2019
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      “Misleading/needs context” seems to be an epistemic status that’s neither truth, nor lie, nor bullshit (ie indifferent to truth/falsehood). This type of assertion needs a name and some theorizing/steelmanning. Very unsatisfying/weak to accuse someone of this. Like “you’re mean!”

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 May 2019
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      “Misleading” needs a clearer account. How is it done? Why is it bad faith? How can we prove intent to mislead? It’s not as simple as simply giving wrong directions knowingly (that would be a lie).

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    3. srackey@gmail.com‏ @ScottRackey 20 May 2019
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      Often the listener is primed to receive information in the context of a carefully curated (but misleading and politically-driven) narrative. To effectively convey new information in a field with a pre-existing narrative, you have to describe the larger context of the info

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 May 2019
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      I don’t think there’s any careful curation in most cases. Just low-effort pandering to a target group that’s not yours.

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    5. srackey@gmail.com‏ @ScottRackey 20 May 2019
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      I can think of several cases of careful curation - esp. where PR firms and lobbyists are involved. Health benefits of cigarettes in the 50's, grain-heavy food pyramid in the 70's. I'm sure you can find many others. Once you get the flywheel spinning, conformism keeps it going.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 May 2019
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      Yeah, but the common cases simply exploit natural narratives already out there, trump being the obvious exhibit A

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 20 May 2019
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      You could argue, as some do, that he uses the pre-existing narrative carefully curated by fox and talk radio. I find that somewhat unconvincing.

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        2. srackey@gmail.com‏ @ScottRackey 20 May 2019
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          In the case of Trump, pushing narratives, either for or against, is every media person's day job. Media is in the business of selling stories, not truth. Complex, frustrating, counter-intuitive, unlovable truths were abandoned by the roadside, starving and beaten, long ago.

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        3. John Grant‏ @jhngrant 20 May 2019
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          Symptoms of an increasing scarcity of attention?

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