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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 23 Apr 2019
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    Well shit, I talked myself into arguing against holistic thinking. Hofstadter got it wrong. The opposite of holism is not reductionism (that still inherits the well-posedness delusion of holism). The opposite is fragmentism (shardism? disconnectionism? muttism? discordianism?)

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 23 Apr 2019
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        Reductionism is the belief that your solution to a problem will inevitably roll up into more complex solutions to bigger problems, all the way up to the problem of life, the universe and everything being 42.

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 23 Apr 2019
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        Fragmentism by contrast, doesn't expect any sort of coherent roll-up of a localized solution to any problem to anything bigger, more holistic. It is not an integrationist view of differential bits of the universe. More strongly, it speculates that such roll-up is unnecessary

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      4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 23 Apr 2019
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        This is a nice touchdown on an idea I've been slowing pushing along for years now

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      1. john verdon‏ @johnverdon 23 Apr 2019
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        Aren't those alternative fragmentism/shardism, disconnectionism, discordianism just euphemisms or synonyms for reductionism? Without these alternatives you can't have reductionism - simplisticationaism

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      1. höhlenkompetenz 3000‏ @p3k 23 Apr 2019
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        decentralism?

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      1. Dr. tobias c. van Veen‏ @fugitivephilo 23 Apr 2019
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        cue the age old debate of the one vs the many. hence dialectics. also Deleuze. (some might argue wave vs particle, which is to say, undecideability and/or mutual entanglement)

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      1. Luke‏ @LukeB42 23 Apr 2019
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        Discordianism as opposite of Holism. Yes.pic.twitter.com/a85eJHVpUY

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      1. john verdon‏ @johnverdon 24 Apr 2019
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        synecdochism?

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      1. Mirko Friedrich‏ @puritanner 24 Apr 2019
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        That triggers memories of the discussion regarding the "Principle of Alternate Possibilities" around Harry G. Frankfurt. Not in the light of free will but in regards to the "roll up" of simple answers into a more complex world.

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      2. John Hartley‏ @johntonta 24 Apr 2019
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        Modularity

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        Thought modularity is used more in the context of ‘plug and play’ rather than these modules rolling up to holistic

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