Hmm, that’s a coherent definition of one kind of intellectualism (traditional/scholastic/straussian). I have a feeling there’s at least a couple of other distinct types.
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Replying to @vgr
Who are some examples you’re thinking of, of intellectuals who fall outside my definition?
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Replying to @nils_gilman
I think of them as "take only pictures, leave only footprints" people. Some of my friends who have an intellectual orientation towards, and relationship with life, but don't situate themselves in tradition as a first order of business. Only as a side-effect
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Replying to @vgr
But doesn’t saying they have “an intellectual orientation” risk becoming tautological?
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Replying to @nils_gilman
Not necessarily. I'm characterizing the orientation in intensional terms via definitional behavioral constituents such as curiosity which others have pointed out. "Intellectuals are curious" like "water is wet". They try things. They forgo immediate reward. etc etc.
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Replying to @vgr
Curiosity cannot be enough to qualify as an intellectual. Even kittens are curious, despite the mortality risks.
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Replying to @nils_gilman
Likewise, situation in tradition cannot be enough to qualify as an intellectual. Even hidebound priests are situated in tradition. And I'm actually inclined to admit possibility of say "chimpanzee intellectuals". I don't think there are tight necessary/sufficient conditions here
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Replying to @vgr
Here’s a possible synthesis: placing yourself in a tradition means you *aim* to be an intellectual; the complexity and originality of your work within that tradition is what determines how *good* of an intellectual you are.
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Replying to @nils_gilman
Or you aim to be a particular sort of intellectual who seeks that kind of validation and comparative evaluation against others. I think it can simply be a way of living like mysticism. Just as mystics exist in both monastically embodied traditions and as wild solitary hermits.
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Replying to @vgr @nils_gilman
Then it sounds a lot like what others have tried to describe as a Cynical tradition. Which is distinct from the “tender, quiet freemasonry of useless erudition” or whatever.
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That does capture part of what I'm getting at here. So for example, as a former institutional academic guy who is now a blogger, I'm still in a "tradition" in Nils' sense, but it is a weaker one, and to the extent I'm intellectual at all, I'm closer to a Crusoe-on-Island one
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Replying to @vgr @nils_gilman
Are you trying to describe a virtue/foible or a sociological category that takes the good with the bad?
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I feel like any suitable definition will also comprehend the phenomenon of the “rock star intellectual”. For instance, Jordan Peterson is an intellectual. Of a funny American televangelist type. But I think he has to count. Otherwise you’ll just end up defining philosophy etc.
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