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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Apr 2019
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      Abstraction levels in engineering are like octaves for vocalists. I think I know maybe 2-3 engineers with a range greater than 3 levels/octaves. Mine is not even 1 full level/octave 🤣

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    2. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      3?! Are you serious? How can anyone make it through a CS program without being familiar with at least 10-15 levels? Modern processors have at least that many and that’s without even leaving the chip!

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Apr 2019
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      Familiarity and college level exam passing aren’t the same as practicing mastery at even a mediocre level. They just mitigate anxiety

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    4. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      Sure, but the skill being transferred here is: “how to program at *any* level of abstraction”. See enough of these and variations of each and you’ve seen them all. Much how linguists study the language of language itself.

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    5. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      So, in this sense, a master engineer’s “range” is actually infinite.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Apr 2019
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      Doesn’t work that way from what I’ve seen. People are comfortable enough to technically discuss things with people at other home levels but not actually practice more than 2 levels away. Small differences overwhelm conceptual similarities. Skill decays to dangerously amateurish.

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    7. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      Nah, you’ve either heard wrong or haven’t talked to true masters. People can also psych themselves out and underestimate their actual abilities too.

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    8. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      The situation is actually this bad: with the mere competent becoming known as “unicorns”. I think that is the result of several forces: HR and such departments wishing to “box” folks, imposter’s syndrome and folks blindingly and unthinkingly submitting to HR boxing them in.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Apr 2019
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      I think you’re vastly overestimating the number and or capabilities of these supposed “true masters”. If anything I think I know far more of them than usual, which throws the average/median engineer’s limited range into sharp relief.

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    10. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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      You’re denying my lived experience but ok. We can agree to disagree.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 7 Apr 2019
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      Consider that you may have preferentially sought out and chosen to work with top talent and may yourself be good enough that they want to. The industry average is nothing like the cream.

      7:06 PM - 7 Apr 2019
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        1. Jonathan Leonard‏ @johanatan 7 Apr 2019
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          Yes, this seems likely. 😀

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