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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      One sign is things like call-out/cancel culture. It is a meeting of an immovable object and an irresistible force. A stubborn resistance to accountability meeting an implacable demand for consequences. There is no resolution.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      Such a culture emerging is a consequence, not a cause, of terminal institutional failure. Mutually assured destruction. No matter how apparently healthy an institution, once it starts being governed by call-out/cancel culture, it’s game over for everybody.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      Note that I’m not taking a general moral position here. I assume sometimes the call-out.cancel side is in the right, other times those resisting accountability to the polis/public is in the right. The point is, it is a symbolic fight over burial rights to a corpse.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      Cancel culture may cancel individual lives via social death, which may or may not be deserved in particular cases, but if the incidence of “justice by cancelation” is high enough relative to due process redressal, what’s being canceled is the idea of the institution itself.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      Again, no moral judgment implied. Particular institutions may or may not deserve to die by your favorite system of moral reckoning. The point is, cancel culture is a terminal cancer. It can only kill, not sustain life.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      I feel this is worth laying out explicitly because many activist types with poor experience of organizational behavior may be laboring under the misconception that they are engaged in reform rather than capital punishment.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      If that’s what you want, go for it. May good win over the evil. But if that’s not the outcome you want, reconsider your tactics. If cancel culture is seen to dominate an institution, it will attract conformist bureaucrats, turn off creative thinkers, drain vitality, cause death.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      What happens once a major institution is on its deathbed? Two possibilities: 1) Fallow cycle is the default. Nothing growing for a while. 2) Non-default outcome is a “trust-fixing” cycle, by analogy to nitrogen-fixing legumes that are often rotated with grains.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      The “legumes” among institutional types are ones with such extraordinarily high trust and investment in mutuality, they are immune to cancel/call-out culture. By which I mean “family” as the archetype. So, small family-style orgs replacing large impersonal/due-process orgs.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      This isn’t a deep point. Due process (Gesellschaft) is only as good as the organic trust (Gemeinschaft) underwriting it. It only works to the extent everybody agrees it does. Undermine it with a cancel-culture pathway may be quicker justice in the short term but atrophy long-term

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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      Again — and I keep repeating myself because it is both true and tempting to ignore — no moral judgment here. This is just how the lifecycle of organizations works. Particular institutional deaths may or may not represent net loss of societal wealth.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          To go macro, I’m not even asserting particular broad outcomes as desirable or not. Perhaps the whole industrial institutional landscape needs burning to the ground, perhaps only 5% of the worst rot needs cutting out. There’s probably an upper burn limit for successful recovery.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          All this of course assumes there is some degree of governance and restraint possible on the cancel side; that it is a true public capable of some deliberation and conscious choices; that it is not always a zombie mob of true believers led by psycho authoritarians.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          If it is, then this is all moot. It’s a zombie apocalypse, and the vampire elites have to go into hiding while the humans band into family-structured units for everything.

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          To complete the analogy, the libertarian werewolf packs think they’ll inherit the world after the vampires and zombies destroy each other and they eat the humans on the way to their Galtian fortresses, but they’re mostly weresheep in practice and can be safely ignored as NPCs.

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        6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          Final point: I haven’t said much about the target class of cancel culture, unaccountable institutional elites of some sort. The ones analogous to extractive vampire-farmers in this convoluted mixed metaphor. They are harder to generalize about since they are more varied.

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        7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 Apr 2019
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          Raging zombies are all alike, every predatory vampire is predatory in its own way. Universities, Hollywood, gaming communities, legislative bodies, corporations, courts, each is extractively destroyed in its own way.

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