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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Hmm. @Meaningness has claimed metarationality and @sarahdoingthing has claimed postrationality. I need to claim a prefix too. I think I'll take "para." I'm a pararationalist. Yay!

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      I was thinking "sub" but "subrational" sounds synonymous with "stupid." And "infrarational" sounds too systematic a description of my "project" as it were. I'd like to see somebody do "infrarationality" though (I'm thinking post-Godelian logic and foundations as scope)

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Pararationality sounds accurate for me. It's got connotations of adventitiousness, accident/serendipity, and adjacency. I'm less interested in "topping" rationality or going "beyond" it than in sort of sidling off to the sides of it. Liminal adjacent possible rationality.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      A lot of my thoughts fit this description. Like "mediocrity is good" or "evolution selects for mediocre mediocre" are prototypical pararational ideas. Their relationship to to rationality is the same as paranormal stuff to "science" -- a control group that can go out of control

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      The scope of pararationality is the underdetermination of lived experience relative to rational necessity. William James will-to-believe doctrine something something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James#Will_to_believe_doctrine …

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Now if only we can get somebody to take on infrarationality as a mission, we can be the 4 horsepeople of the rationalitycalypse.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Hmm... if I can think of enough jokes, I'm going to write this 4 horsepeople idea up as a post...

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Oh hey look the post/para/meta/infra quartet fits my goat-crow-rat triangle quite well. I'll show myself out now.pic.twitter.com/7p9kFNUlOn

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      More seriously, I think general interest in transcending limits of rationality in all directions is, I think, a direct consequence of classical liberalism hitting its limits as a cognitive OS. At some point it just doesn't offer ways to talk about the world as we experience it.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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      Pararationality could be called ironic esotericism as well. The primary marker is a predilection towards inventing unnecessary game-like constructs to think with just because they're fun, and recoding existing constructs for trolling and profit.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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          Hmm the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse symbolize: conquest, pestilence, famine, and death meta- (david) is obviously conquest, and post- (sarah) is obviously death So I get to pick between pestilence and famine. Pestilence seems apt for para-. Famine is infra- (void)

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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          My kind of thinking "infects" healthy thinking like a parasite that won't go away 😎 All 4 horsepeople troll rationality with a specific trolling aesthetic. Pararational trolling is being annoying in juvenile way. Meta is "owning" and post is "trivializing". Infra is "confusing"

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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          Pararationalism is to rationalism as calculus of variations is to regular calculus. Very loosely and allegorically speaking.

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2018
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          Alright. stone cold steve austin. I'm owning it. pararationality ftw.

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        1. R_Ganesh‏ @r_ganesh 4 Aug 2019
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          Reality periodically seems surreal to most variants of rationalists. Except surrationalists.

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