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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 18 Dec 2018
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      The Chinese Room vs. the Cork-Lined Room, if you will

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 19 Dec 2018
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      Written anything about this?

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    3. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      Tackling it now. Working my way up with the weaker version/proxy for character consciousness which i think is a character being aware that they’re in a work of fiction.

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    4. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      Kind of like a metaphysical cameo. Doesn’t necessarily entail a breaking of the fourth wall.

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    5. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      It’s more of the character being written in a way that makes them seem like they’re suffering from a Truman Show/monothematic delusion (a metathematic delusion?)

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    6. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      Hamlet’s a particular good example because he 1.) consciously rejects playing ball with the revenge narrative set up for him and subverts it entirely 2.) directs his own plays as if he’s grappling with/investigating his condition

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    7. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      Stuck on whether this just a really good aesthetic representation of consciousness, or an actual hashing/compressing of real consciousness into a static state.

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    8. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      But instead of running this AI via a computer, we run it by reading/having actors “run” the character’s source code on their machine, themselves [Insert something about Keith Johnstone’s masks here]

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    9. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      Like the Berkeley study that said that brains have separate clocks for “narrative” and “rhythm”. Maybe the narrative clock is the only essential one, and the other can be outsourced (to an actor or computer) without losing anything essential.

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    10. Jane Flowers‏ @ommateum_io 19 Dec 2018
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      In other words, consciousness is a film that’s projector agnostic. Like the crazy static universe idea:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_universe …

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 19 Dec 2018
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      Hmm. I don't see the connection there. The consciousness-as-film hypothesis seems to be a version of the Cartesian theater model which seems entirely wrong to me (cf. Gilbert Ryle etc). Not sure how it connects to static universe either.

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