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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 15 Dec 2018
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    The idea of original sin plus the idea of Jesus having already paid for your sins is fascinating. It’s like being born with a bad credit score, being extended credit anyway, expected to fail at paying off debts, and have those debts be discharged in a bankruptcy proceeding in 1BC

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 15 Dec 2018
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        Other religions have similar logic though not codified quite as cleanly. My ‘no obligations’ tweet was basically a sort of anti religious axiom: you’re born with starter credit simply by virtue of being made of n eternal atoms.https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1073751685212692480?s=21 …

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        You have no obligation to be useful or interesting to the world.
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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 15 Dec 2018
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        If you don’t need more than the starter credit to live out your life, you’re good. If you want or need more, or simply feel like it, you can *choose* to take on obligations to others as needed. But you start out at delta >0.

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      4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 15 Dec 2018
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        This is a sort of life affirming alternative to the life-negating whine “I didn’t ask to be born.”

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      2. Kyle Mathews‏ @kylemathews 15 Dec 2018
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        There's a lot of problems with the debt metaphor https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/roundtable-how-does-the-atonement-work/ … Also fwiw, mormons don't believe in the original sin

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 15 Dec 2018
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        Another reason Mormons are the best Christians 😂

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      1. Gene Marsh‏ @NormanOverholt 15 Dec 2018
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        “I don't even understand the connection with 'died for your sins'. He died for your sins, well, how does one affect the other? 'I hit myself in the foot with a shovel for your mortgage'...” ― Doug Stanhope

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      2. Tiago Forte‏ @fortelabs 16 Dec 2018
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        Yes exactly. In a different sense too: grace through faith is like an unlimited credit card your grandpa will pay off if you submit to him. Whereas grace through works is like a debit card you can only spend if you have funds

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        I always tried to argue to Christians that the debit card is actually more honest and responsible, and doesn’t leave you with an open ended debt. But no one ever seemed to agree

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      1. Chaz.Ends‏ @thechaz 15 Dec 2018
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        God condemns me for having a Human nature that he imbued me with, professes to try to save from by sacrificing himself to himself to satisfy arbitrary rules that he himself made up. Absurdly stupid storybook.

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        Keeping it real for Virgil

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