Is that just a rhetorical thing or is there some convoluted theological reasoning behind it like transubstantiation?
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Replying to @vgr @sonyaellenmann
I’m pretty sure there’s theology behind it but I am not familiar with it
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Replying to @literalbanana @sonyaellenmann
Hmm
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Replying to @vgr @literalbanana and
The basic (mainstream) idea is that all sins must be "paid for", or else you go to hell. Jesus's death was the "payment" to atone for everyone's sins, giving them the chance to go to heaven instead. But you have to accept the payment by accepting Jesus.
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Replying to @gravity_levity @vgr and
Yeah. Basically, sins have to be paid for. Jesus is considered infinitely meritorious, so he can pay for everyone's sins. You just have to "cash the check", since you still have agency over your life.
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Replying to @micahtredding @gravity_levity and
Oh that makes sense actually. You could even formalize it with a Godellian numbering scheme. An infinite list of all who will ever live, with a preprinted get out of hail free card reserved for every unique id. You have to claim yours to use it. Held for you at “will call”.
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Replying to @vgr @micahtredding and
But as
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Replying to @sonyasupposedly @sonyaellenmann and
Why? Predestination, certainty of grace... hours of endless nerd fun.
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Replying to @vgr @sonyaellenmann and
not so fast: certainty of grace would imply that God's behavior is predicated, which God being Super Duper Transcendent is not (this is the premise of the Book of Job) you cannot know whether you have received Grace or not, and no, you can't "earn" it, but you *can* refuse it
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There we go now wasn’t that fun 


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