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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      SJWs are fighting over the dead carcass of the old world. The amount of damage they can do is fundamentally limited. The ethnonationalist right though, is threatening the living, growing thing. The amount of damage they can do is basically infinite. They might kill golden goose.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      Can we do better than neoliberalism? Yeah, sure, We can and we must, since big new challenges like climate change seem out of reach for its institutions (it is *powered* by tragedy of the commons in the worst case). More critically, it is based on nation states.

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    3. Craig Montuori‏ @craig_montuori 3 Dec 2018
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      Are you looking beyond the nation-state here? I'm not sure if Kennedy's "market-state" theory ever played out in practice

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      Yes, that's the only place I'm looking :D Nation-states are not dying, but they are going to be something of a vestigial layer of the stack that's going to float up for ceremonial use, with more consequential layers like MNCs sinking below to be new bedrock.

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    5. Christopher F. Nicholson‏ @chrisFnicholson 3 Dec 2018
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      Corporate power has been reined in before. I think people are more comfortable with a nationalist power they can control than a corporate power they can’t. And when corporate power feels too dominant, government tends to step in (see: Trustbusting)

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      Dangerous belief in history rhyming exactly. This ain't Standard Oil.

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    7. Christopher F. Nicholson‏ @chrisFnicholson 3 Dec 2018
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      From the standpoint of the conduct of the corporations or from the political distrust in corporate power? Just cause Google and Amazon are better doesn’t mean people will be any more comfortable with it.

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    8. Craig Montuori‏ @craig_montuori 3 Dec 2018
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      Neither to me. The corporations are much more transnational, less constrained by national power these days. Corporate inversions as an example

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    9. Christopher F. Nicholson‏ @chrisFnicholson 3 Dec 2018
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      I mean, that didn’t work out so well for ZTE. Inversions still need regulatory approval and the US government still has tremendous power to destroy markets on a whim. I can’t think of a major international corporation that’s out of reach of a determined US government.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      What’s a corporate inversion?

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 3 Dec 2018
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      You guys seem to believe in a wall between corporate and political power that is mostly theory now. Most politicians have a stake in the Corp world now. There’s a degree of institutionalized coincidence of types of power. During trust-busting era that was weaker.

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        1. Craig Montuori‏ @craig_montuori 3 Dec 2018
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          Oh, just look at the thinning lines between military (acquisitions) at the flag level and corporate board membership if you really want to be perturbed

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        2. Craig Montuori‏ @craig_montuori 3 Dec 2018
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          But this also goes back to the Hobbesian bit you mention. Achieve success in politics, afterwards get invited to the speaker circuit and corporate boards, regardless of ethnic in-grouping

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          That didn’t work out well for Hillary.

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        2. Christopher F. Nicholson‏ @chrisFnicholson 3 Dec 2018
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          I think politicians are generally responsive to the anger of the voters. Killing the golden goose is definitely possible is as a result of said anger. I would not say it’s guaranteed, but there’s a serious anti-corporate streak in our politics today.

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        3. Christopher F. Nicholson‏ @chrisFnicholson 3 Dec 2018
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          And a decade before TR you had arguably the most corporate friendly president in a generation. Winds can shift quickly.

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