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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      I think impersonal institutions are toast. If you want an alternative to neopatrimonialism, start thinking of mechanisms for enabling transitive p2p trust. Technology that makes it such that if A trusts B and B trusts C, A trusts C in certain predictable ways/defined scopes.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      This is why blockchain was/remains exciting. It feels like part of the solution. The robustness of personal institutions with the scale and openness of impersonal ones.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      The problem is that legibilizing trust enough to make it transitive may be an AI complete 🤔 When Alice says, “I trust Bob” to Charlie, the only way to capture the promise being made is to include a model of Alice in any new Bob-Charlie relationship definition.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      If something gets screwed up, Alice-bot is part of the arbitration and any consequences backpropagate to Alice, I think 🤔 It’s a sort of expanding entanglement of risk exposures. A growing Gordian knot of community and mutuality. All are complicit in everything.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      Impersonal institutions are a kind of cutting of the Gordian knot. A finite whitelist certification. “Bob got an A+ in Calculus 101”. Alice can only be held accountable for inferences made directly from that specific endorsement assertion which only captures a piece of trust.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      In practice the embodiment of interpersonal trust that travels the farthest is still the good old recommendation letter. A simple, untargeted, but dated and personally backed block of text. Surprisingly nothing invented since quite disrupts it.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      “To whom it may concern” may be the most powerful 5 words in the world. Alice is standing behind an arbitrary block of text concerning Bob in undefined future contexts in relation to arbitrary counter parties. A verifiable currency token with only 1 unit in circulation.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      Hmm. Idea for a personal currency: collect digitally signed to-whom-it-may-concern open recommendation letters from friends, colleagues etc. Maybe with expiry dates or revocation capacity. Maybe you have a stash of a hundred.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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      Then (and this is the clever bit) sign a few over to new people you need to have trust you while you’re working with them. They return them when relationship is done. If they like the work, they issue you their recommendation letters citing the ones they held.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          So old letters get more valuable as new letters blockchain on. You use them for more important things. It’s a secure currency because they are only useful in relation to working with you. You can stake a few letters or many, leaf-letters or roots of long chains.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          If they DON’T like the work, they have the option of destroying the letters they hold. You’d have to go back and get new letters from people for the entire destroyed chain. So it’s serious. You’re operating your own ransomware.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          How would you use this? Instead of saying “I really want this job!” you’d say, “I want this job so much I’ll stake my entire TWIMC forest* on this application!” * Set of To Whom It May Concern DAG trees

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          You’d literally be staking your reputation. Or at least signing up for a very expensive reputation reconstruction failure mode. Including recommendations from dead people that may not be recoverable.

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        6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          You could robustify your reputation forest. If Bob thinks Alice may in future turn out to be a criminal, he stakes his gig with Charlie using both letters from Alice and Dan. That way if Alice goes to jail, her letter can be removed without orphaning the Charlie letter.

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        7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Nov 2018
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          @threadreaderapp unroll

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