religious fanatics who attack people for blasphemy are also enforcing their own PC norms. in fact, that type of PC enforcement is historically the more prominent one.
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Replying to @vgr
if you're still claiming that explicit rules and implicit PC norms are the same then no we aren't
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Replying to @danlistensto
No, I'm claiming that multiple informal *sources* of explicit legal rules are (decorum, civility, notions of PC) are basically equivalent modulo power.
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Replying to @vgr
the thing about an explicit rule is, regardless of where it came from or who's power it reinforces, you know what you get up front and someone violating their own explicit rules reveals themselves as a hypocrite (or tyrant) and suffers an appropriate loss of credibility.
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Replying to @danlistensto
Sure, my point here was inspired by Trump's WH saying it's going to put out new rules for press briefings since their informal idea of "decorum" was violated by inconveniently hostile reporters like Acosta. Hypocrisy is that Trump routinely behaves 10x worse in decorous settings
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Replying to @vgr
and has suffered tremendous loss of credibility except with his fanatic/unhinged base. not that he gives a fuck. Acosta really did break the implicit decorum. This is a separate issue from Trump being a flaming dickhead with no credibility (or moral compass).
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and it's not so much protecting the sensibilities of the powerful as it is protecting the established (long before Trump) social norm that allows reporters to ask questions of the WH in an orderly fashion. That's actually good for transparency.
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The point is, norm was *not* strong enough for Trump so he was imposing a stronger norm, and when reporters refused to abide by it, he tried and failed to deny his privileges on a whim, and is now formally strengthening the norms that were enough for a POTUS who held up his end
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Replying to @vgr
that is not how I interpret the situation. Trump was out of line in revoking Acosta's press pass and a judge has actually settled the issue appropriately. Acosta's behavior was out of line too and shouting over other reporters should have cost him credibility from his peers.
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I don't think he was out of line so much as tracking the shifting line. He was escalating in response to Trump being out of line in the extent of his evasion, specific targeting of CNN etc. He was tracking a shifting norm as in "okay, so we're playing hardball now are we?"
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