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    1. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      You can claim now that you are "protecting the sensitivies of the weak" but no faction stays in power forever and corruption, frailty, and opportunism are constant features of societies and those who govern them. Giving tools like this to the government is begging for it.

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    2. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      and it's a mistake to think that PC is necessarily protecting the sensitivities of the weak. that couldn't be further from the truth. PC is just the enforcement of group norms in speech and other public behavior. it is not always done with benign intent.

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    3. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      religious fanatics who attack people for blasphemy are also enforcing their own PC norms. in fact, that type of PC enforcement is historically the more prominent one.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Nov 2018
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      I think we're agreeing furiously

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    5. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      if you're still claiming that explicit rules and implicit PC norms are the same then no we aren't

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Nov 2018
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      No, I'm claiming that multiple informal *sources* of explicit legal rules are (decorum, civility, notions of PC) are basically equivalent modulo power.

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    7. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      the thing about an explicit rule is, regardless of where it came from or who's power it reinforces, you know what you get up front and someone violating their own explicit rules reveals themselves as a hypocrite (or tyrant) and suffers an appropriate loss of credibility.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Nov 2018
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      Sure, my point here was inspired by Trump's WH saying it's going to put out new rules for press briefings since their informal idea of "decorum" was violated by inconveniently hostile reporters like Acosta. Hypocrisy is that Trump routinely behaves 10x worse in decorous settings

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    9. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      and has suffered tremendous loss of credibility except with his fanatic/unhinged base. not that he gives a fuck. Acosta really did break the implicit decorum. This is a separate issue from Trump being a flaming dickhead with no credibility (or moral compass).

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    10. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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      and it's not so much protecting the sensibilities of the powerful as it is protecting the established (long before Trump) social norm that allows reporters to ask questions of the WH in an orderly fashion. That's actually good for transparency.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Nov 2018
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      And I disagree, it IS about protecting the powerful. WH press briefings are stage managed to make it much easier for POTUS to get their message out while avoiding answering the hard questions. It just wasn't designed to handle a POTUS at war with the media.

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        1. Dan listens to the last days of the first days‏ @danlistensto 16 Nov 2018
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          yes, they can be evasive and self-interested and they usually are. that still allows the public to see which questions the WH is uncomfortable with and that serves a function. if it's all just shouting matches we don't even get that much.

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