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Venkatesh Rao
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Conversational account. For work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian. IKEA builder.

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    1. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 24 Sep 2018
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      A brand needs to be consistent about something. To identify consistency, designers and users need memory. In order to market something, it needs to be presented with concepts that the buyer is familiar with.

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    2. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 24 Sep 2018
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      How do you get from "some amount of consistency and familiarity is required", to "design and marketing must be reactionary"? I think "reactionary" implies more than simple consistency and familiarity - it is something like a cargo cult of the past.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 24 Sep 2018
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      I get to “some amount of reactionary” and “some amount of cargo cutting”

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    4. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 24 Sep 2018
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      Hmm, I think I disagree. I think my point of divergence with your chain of reasoning is here: "when the desires become legible enough to pursue via a simpler mechanism than recreating the remembered experience" - there is not always a simpler mechanism, legible is not always hard

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 24 Sep 2018
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      If so then the minimum viable reactionary attitude is not zero

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    6. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 24 Sep 2018
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      I think an interesting way to see how much is needed is to look at the careers of fiction authors. The publishers want everyone to be like Nora Roberts, but most authors want more variety and novelty than that. The consistency can be something like "from the mind of Neil Gaiman"

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    7. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 24 Sep 2018
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      Lois McMaster Bujold talks about how readers don't know how to ask for something new. They mostly just ask for "more of that please". She's successful enough that her name can sell books. There are common characteristics between books, enough it can be a brand.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 25 Sep 2018
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      Yup faster horse syndrome run much deeper than people realize. Particularly burdensome for writers who as a rule would never repeat a formula if they could help it.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 25 Sep 2018
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      My most-requested thing is “gervais principle but for show X”

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    10. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 25 Sep 2018
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      Oof. How terrible. And how much easier your marketing would be if you wanted to do that. (I'm assuming you don't want to, since you haven't.)

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 25 Sep 2018
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      Yep 🙂

      8:01 AM - 25 Sep 2018
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        1. strangeattractor‏ @strangeattracto 25 Sep 2018
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          I still don't follow what you're saying about the cargo cult thing. I spend a lot of my time explaining things that people haven't heard of, and I can think of unsentimental reasons to have brand loyalty. If there's a minimum, it can be vanishingly small.

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