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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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      Most philosophy seems to be centered on one of 2 things: survival or self-actualization. Almost all non-religious philosophy is centered on the latter. Darwinism (as a philosophy) and existentialism are the only major philosophies of survival that I can think of. Any others?

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    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism 5 Sep 2018
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      Seems broadly untrue, unless epistemology, ontology, metaphysics, ethics, etc. are all actually/secretly about self-actualization?

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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      Yup, they are, and it's not "secret" -- it is all concerned with the nature of being and its flourishing/generativity. The question of being vs. non-being is in a way too elemental to theorize a lot. You kinda have to contemplate it and stick to simpler pre-theory.

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    4. simpolism‏ @simpolism 5 Sep 2018
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      Are there not other, more practical reasons why one might be interested in investigating the nature of being? Like, coming up with cool product ideas, or winning debates?

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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      You realize that requires assuming and embracing being over non-being? Except during wartime, most people don't realize there are assumptions being made in that department.

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    6. simpolism‏ @simpolism 5 Sep 2018
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      Isn't the idea of "embracing being over non-being" itself a dichotomy advanced by existentialism (a wartime philosophy)? Is it not self-evident to most that being is preferred over non-being? Perhaps we need philosophy to help those for whom it isn't obvious.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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      Camus' "the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide" is something like the P≠NP proposition of philosophy == "Choosing life is better than choosing death". Most people assume it is true and move along to other questions. Few work on the proposition itself.
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    8. simpolism‏ @simpolism 5 Sep 2018
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      The question doesn't make sense to me, some assumptions baked in that aren't clicking. I don't understand what it means to "choose death", unless Camus meant self-defenestration.

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    9. Matthew Samuel Sweet‏ @Matthew_Sweet 5 Sep 2018
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      Surely the result of “choosing death” is suicide? Else you’re not really choosing it. Antinatalism could be the penultimate stop. But if you really and truly choose death, ya gotta kill yourself.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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      Nah, that's the corner case. The result of choosing death is Bruce Sterling's acting-dead condition. Actually committing literal suicide paradoxically takes a good deal more willful life energy than people realize, which is why it takes weird conditions to force it.

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        2. Matthew Samuel Sweet‏ @Matthew_Sweet 5 Sep 2018
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          Is acting dead a part of a particular Sterling work or?

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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          https://www.wired.com/2011/02/transcript-of-reboot-11-speech-by-bruce-sterling-25-6-2009/ …

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        2. Matthew Samuel Sweet‏ @Matthew_Sweet 5 Sep 2018
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          What if the wilful life energy bit was removed as a constraint? Is acting dead still the more death-y choice?

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Sep 2018
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          not sure what it would mean to do that

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        1. MOURNING CROW PUNISHER Derek‏ @PereGrimmer 5 Sep 2018
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          The most dangerous point for suicide = a mixed state, e.g., when an antidepressant is lifting someone out of depression. Still have the depressive suicidal urge but suddenly have the energy to act on it.

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