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Y’all. It’s 2018. We need nuance around concepts like “problematic” Everyone is problematic because nobody perfect. Get over it. If you think “problematic” means an eternal dragging party, how exactly are you different than the punishment based oppressive society we have now?
Y’all need to let people be wrong, apologize and grow. Newsflash- punishment based politics don’t work. They just push away good people who fuck up sometimes while praising actual predators who learned the language and performance.
Let be 
there’s a huge difference between someone who tries and fails sometimes vs someone who has a history of intentional fuck ups, refusal to learn, and chronic abusive behavior.
If you treat people who try and fail the same as you treat abusers? What’s the point? You’re not seeking community improvement, you’re seeking self gratification and a hierarchy you benefit from. Do better. Be better. Replicating bullshit is not the path to liberation
Problematic = not being perfect. Do not conflate that with people who are intentionally malicious or abusive. If you want to endlessly punish everyone Over every little error? Go work in a conservative church or he criminal justice system. That mentality flourishes there.
But y’all love to drag People who are trying. As if y’all were born woke. Nobody was born aware of everything. We’ve all fucked up. Me, you, everyone. That doesn’t make us bad people if we take the lesson and grow. Don’t conflate this with intentionally bad behavior, ok?
Ughhh if I woulda known this was gonna pop like that, I would’ve proof read better 
Girl of course the whole human race is “problematic” but when people say that they mean people who are outright bad people. For example Chris Brown is a problematic celebrity who doesn’t have a chance of redemption at this point.
But they don’t. Which is the problem. Pretending Someone who digs a pre rhianna/Chris track vs Chris himself is BS to the max Both will be called problematic. But I’m actually only scared to be around one
And tbh the biggest thing is abusers. So many fuxking Predators will spin that shit. Like both Chris AND Rhi are problematic.bc he beat her ass, but she threw a shoe at him in a restaurant . When we call everyone problematic we pretend both cases are equal when that’s a lie
Throwing a shoe at someone who is abusing you behind closed doors is hardly being problematic more so acting out because of the traumatic stress you’re under. Yes it wasn’t the correct response but don’t label the victim as problematic.
I’m saying there are celebrities and people like him who is actually problematic and anyone who labels someone who just does something that is problematic but a good person probably doesn’t know the difference honestly. Or perhaps they’re just extremist
That’s kinda the point. He isn’t merely “problematic” he’s a full on abuser. But he’s labeled problematic, just as she is even tho their behavior isn’t comparable. Abusers use concepts like problematic to hide behind their abuse. Other people labeled as problematic are...
Shunned from spaces and never given a chance to recover. Abusers bank on that.
People ten years ago are generally less mature, more “problematic” versions of who they are today. I’m not sure what drives people to punish the same process they themselves relied on for growth and education - missteps, trial, and error.
Once upon a time I would have rationalized this casual punishment of the “problematic” as marginal or insignificant. Now I’m not so sure. I’m willing to entertain the idea that sometimes it actively obstructs the causes it seeks to advance.
If someone is being dragged non stop for mistake, then the punishment isn’t casual. Calling someone out is fine. And then you step back and let them grow. You don’t perpetually hold that error over their head
The point of a call out is to correct bad behavior . But if you won’t stop dragging the person who fucked up and let them make amends? That’s not about correcting behavior, that’s about sadism and maintaining power in an echo chamber/hierarchy.
Yes yes yes. It's no longer about calling it out. Like you said, it's about self-gratification and needing to feel superior. It's about putting other people down for a false sense of moral superiority. It's hideous.
Thank you for the additions. Appreciative for the replies.
I have this phenomenon wherein a person I identify as generally good and well meaning trembles in their place - or takes on a semi-scared look of sensitivity - when I discuss lived experience of mental illness as a point of social discrimination.
What's odd is that when this happens, these people have never committed particular harm, never made a transgression towards me. And I'm always glad to share. But they must have learned this response from somewhere - either through experience or observance.
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