Uncle Bob Martin

While not actively ending elections, would you agree that Trump, in claiming during the campaign that "the election is rigged"and afterwards that millions of illegal votes were cast, has done more than any other president to erode faith in them?

The Right might claim that Clinton and the FBI leadership tried to rig the election. The left might say that Trump and the Russians tried to rig the election. Dead people in Chicago and the SCOTUS have been blamed for past elections. It’s an old trope.

How do you gauge intent? And what are these "clear indications"? This is about slippery slope and how Europe went down that road 80 years ago. Never again. This is neither a thought exercise nor a program you can debug.

If politicians use language and enact policies that one feels can directly be associated with the rethoric of the past which lead to the demise of millions: you take heed and you speak up. No if's or but's.

Sorry that’s nonsense. History shows that the current US government is pursuing a similar path the Nazis did when they first came into power by passing acts which make the systemic abuse of minorities & seeking to normalise these acts.

The policies are against illegal immigration they are not against a race.

And your point is? The first Nazi policies gave the state further control and power over the people so they could more easily discriminate against their intended target and normalise their stand point. Happy to argue this all day, I’ve got a degree in modern history! You?

Computer science, something useful.

Seems to me like the "not technically a Nazi" argument is the new "All Lives Matter" response. A response specifically crafted to argue semantics and distract from the main, incredibly important point. You seem to care much more about semantics than the child victims here.

“I think X is terrible and I care about X, I just don’t agree that X is like Nazism” = “I don’t care at all about X and I am fine with X and I think X is justified”. Gotcha.

The indicator of how much he cares about "X" is how much he speaks up about "X" versus how much he speaks up about defending "X" from unflattering comparisons.

Or, you know, a person is more likely to spend more time defending themselves and their stance when people are directly attacking them for having voiced their opinion.

"Directly attacking" oh was he physically attacked? Or is it only "voicing an opinion" when he does it

I’m talking about people like, say, Reginald Braithwaite who want to shame him and call him names on Twitter for having voiced his opinion.

"Voicing an opinion" is the only valid reason to be shamed, depending on what that opinion is. More valid than race, gender, etc. "Judge by the content of one's character" and all that. @unclebobmartin "attacked" the media (sounds familiar), and he's getting backlash from it

You don’t need to quote “attacked”. It’s not dirty or hyperbolic. It’s a more succinct term for “spoke out against.” I’m attacking you right now and I will own that.

Why should one have to wait until it comes to "clear murderous intent of a well defined group" before one starts to acknowledge the precursors and warning signs that led to that point? You're taking a continuum and needlessly, crudely, and fallaciously descretizing it.

You're on Day 3 of making this tiresome point. You don't think that Trump's actions are a precursor to anything NAZI-like. Fine. I suggest you try to address the points raised to you, instead of coming up with an arbitrary/binary definition of when NAZI comparisons are valid.

For instance, explain why Trump admin lies about crimes committed by illegal immigrants aren't a concerning example of scapegoating. Or why using terms like "breed", "infest", "animals" aren't examples of dehumanization. Or why the No Tolerance policy isn't jack booted and cruel.

Another concerning fact: enforcement of immigration laws is selective and focused disproportionately on Latinos. Why? How is that not immensely concerning? I have references for all of these, if desired.

We're meant to believe that we must separate their families indiscriminately (cruel) because many of them are "animals" (dehumanization) that have murdered 63k Americans (lie, scapegoating). This is NAZI shit, Bob!