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Researcher in Montréal, @MILAMontreal and @mcgillu, combining machine learning and neuroscience. The Cam'Ron of learning.

Montréal, Québec
linclab.org
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    Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Mar 6

    Okay, academia, I'm gonna say it: If none of us are willing to review papers cause we're all too busy, then we should just switch to everything being on arXiv/bioRxiv and letting time and the market-place of ideas decide what is a legit finding or not.

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      2. Martin Vinck‏ @martin_a_vinck Mar 8
        Replying to @tyrell_turing

        What is the context? Who is "us"? Most people I know are happy to review papers when asked and are not too busy.

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      3. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Mar 8
        Replying to @martin_a_vinck

        Most people I know say they are happy to review papers. But my experience as an editor tells me that it can be very hard to find reviewers.

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      2. KordingLab  👨‍💻 🧠∇ 🔬 📈, 🏋️‍♂️ ⛷️ 🏂 🛹 🕺 ⛰️ ☕ 🦖‏ @KordingLab Mar 8
        Replying to @tyrell_turing

        Horrible idea

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      3. Luca‏ @LucaAmb Mar 8
        Replying to @KordingLab @tyrell_turing

        I think that people is severely underestimating the value of peer review. Everytime I read a preprint I need to spend time to assess the credibility of the author before deciding to keep reading. Often I use cheap strategies such as checking CV/institutions of the authors.

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      2. Graeme Moffat‏ @graemedmoffat Mar 6
        Replying to @tyrell_turing

        You've got an incentive problem: there's no prestige reward for reviewing on bioRxiv. The currency of science - prestige in the form of citations and recognition - is conferred by scholars on other scholars in part through hierarchies like editorial boards and invited reviews. /1

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      3. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Mar 6
        Replying to @graemedmoffat

        Part of the idea though is that you don't even review on arXiv. Instead, things that suck eventually get forgotten, whereas important findings keep getting returned to. It wouldn't always play out this way, but hopefully on average it would.

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      2. Piotr Szymański‏ @niedakh Mar 8
        Replying to @tyrell_turing

        Or, we could limit the crazy drive of publish and perish to allow more time for both quality papers and quality reviews, for ex. by taking that anyone writing > N_MAX papers per week is not eligible for funding.

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      3. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Mar 8
        Replying to @niedakh

        I agree this would ultimately be better. I just don't know a realistic means of limiting the current publish or perish drive.

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      2. Francesco Onorati‏ @FrancescoOnora7 Mar 7
        Replying to @tyrell_turing

        There are many drawbacks here. 1) there won't be any guarantee of science ethics, reproducibility, plagiarism, etc etc. 2) there won't be any incentive in terms of quality (even the basics, like english). 3) there will be no standard. 4) there won't be a reward.

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      3. Francesco Onorati‏ @FrancescoOnora7 Mar 7
        Replying to @FrancescoOnora7 @tyrell_turing

        Finally, the peer review system is based on quality and innovation, while most of the arxiv-like platforms are based on hype and popularity. Eliminating the peer review, you would substitute a quality-based system with a popularity-based. Best ideas are rarely the most popular.

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