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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      Another significant cache of documents related to coronavirus work at Wuhan Institute of Virology and EcoHealth has just been unearthed—again, by the same group of internet sleuths. Regardless of what you think of the content, this pattern is troubling. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/lab-leak-pandemic-origins-even-messier/620209/ …pic.twitter.com/nYMSTBU88g

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      Frankly, especially given the pattern of outright lying, cover-up and obfuscation on this matter, I don't understand how anyone can claim they *scientifically* know what's more likely. Existing (crappy, limited, censored) evidence is compatible with multiple scenarios.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      Mysteriously missing: early sequences, databases, accounting of early cases, work we now learn *had been proposed* but we were told was a crazy conspiracy, an "investigation" led by conflicted parties, that was lied to but still proposed frozen food imports as plausible origin.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      You might not have noticed it from media coverage, but some very senior folks in the field moved away from asserting no lab involvement. I thought their concern was the (again less reported) fact that WIV and WCDC had demonstrably lax lab/field practices. But now maybe also this?

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      Three specific issues. What actually happened? (May take decades). How to globally improve safety in research in fields with catastrophic tail risk? (Urgent regardless of one's theory of what happened). How the heck did *our* understanding of all this turn out to be so poor? (😢)

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Sep 2021

      The Intercept story on the same recently unearthed grant proposal. Looks to me like many junior and/or out-of-the loop folks have been left to twist in the wind by more senior and/or in-the-know folks tbh—explains the divergence in their assertions, too. https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/ …pic.twitter.com/lME2wfyA6c

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      New Yorker article, while mentioning the recently-unearthed WIV/EcoHealth grant—proposing, among other things, inserting a furin cleavage site to bat coronaviruses—reveals that the grant "really shocked" the DARPA reviewers with how "irresponsible" it was. https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/the-mysterious-case-of-the-covid-19-lab-leak-theory …pic.twitter.com/yVPWx2xnZw

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      Also keep seeing this: experts in the field "surprised" to learn that WIV was doing experiments with coronaviruses that could infect humans under BSL-2 conditions. Ralph Baric highlighted that as a concern back in MAY OF 2020—and the basic fact is documented in WIV's own papers.pic.twitter.com/EiKMrVQvvK

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      EcoHealth/WIV proposed to "introduce furin cleavage sites into lab-created versions of SARS-related coronaviruses, recovered from bats in Yunnan. They planned to fully sequence and generate clones of three to five novel bat viruses each year." Clone=create virus that can infect.pic.twitter.com/7WS4YMsJxk

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      Josh Rosenberg‏ @tweetjoshtweet 12 Oct 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Does this mean you're leaning toward the lab leak possibility?

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        2. I Brake 4 Ants‏ @ibrake4ants 12 Oct 2021
          Replying to @tweetjoshtweet @zeynep

          Is this a joke? She is completely biased towards the lab leak possibility.

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        3. Josh Rosenberg‏ @tweetjoshtweet 12 Oct 2021
          Replying to @ibrake4ants @zeynep

          No, I just haven't followed as closely as you. Why would I be joking?

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