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Torsten Seemann

@torstenseemann

Microbial genomics, bioinformatics software, training. A/Prof ORCID: 0000-0001-6046-610X

Melbourne, Australia
tseemann.github.io
Joined May 2009

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    1. Mick Watson‏ @BioMickWatson 7 Apr 2018
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      Mick Watson Retweeted Brian Lazzaro

      Unfortunately number of essential resources require more $$ than is available and resources not treated well at committees. Having said that, $150 pp/pa for an essential resource you use daily is a bargain.https://twitter.com/bplazzaro/status/982236622618947585 …

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      Brian Lazzaro @bplazzaro
      I have no words. I can't imagine Drosophila genetics without easy access to FlyBase. It would be like going back to the pre-genome era. @FlyBaseDotOrg, will there be an option for institutional subscriptions? https://twitter.com/rmwaterhouse/status/982231602049703938 …
      7 replies 5 retweets 8 likes
    2. Pat Schloss‏ @PatSchloss 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @BioMickWatson

      I ask people how much a thermalcycler costs and why they won’t pay for software what they pay for hardware

      4 replies 4 retweets 20 likes
    3. Graham Wiley‏ @gbw42 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @PatSchloss @BioMickWatson

      A thermocycler will not become obsolete over the course of its functional lifetime.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Ethan‏ @ELWillis10 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @gbw42 @PatSchloss @BioMickWatson

      That's why software should be developed completely open access and supported with small recurring payments for cashflow to developers as the software is updated. Then you're not paying a lot upfront and if development ceases you simply cancel your future payments.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    5. Torsten Seemann‏ @torstenseemann 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @ELWillis10 @gbw42 and

      It's challenging to keep a software developer running on small unpredictable payments. We need software maintenance grants in academia for widely used tools. Similar for curated databases.

      4 replies 29 retweets 48 likes
    6. Jonathan Jacobs‏ @bioinformer 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @torstenseemann @ELWillis10 and

      isn’t this sort like saying grant agencies should fund science discoveries and long term iterative improvement and support for those discoveries? In other areas of science, commercialization is often the means to pay for sustainment and iterative improvement.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Torsten Seemann‏ @torstenseemann 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bioinformer @ELWillis10 and

      Most funders have "equipment" grants for essential infrastructure. Some software tools are essential infrastructure. Plus software helps the world, that robot only helps one department. I'm not convinced "the market" is best here.

      3 replies 3 retweets 3 likes
    8. Torsten Seemann‏ @torstenseemann 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @torstenseemann @bioinformer and

      Can you give examples of where commercializing academic software was a boon for the project? Imagine the world where blat and blast were commercialised. I don't want to.

      4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Jonathan Jacobs‏ @bioinformer 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @torstenseemann @ELWillis10 and

      I’m not saying that free=bad. I’m just saying that it shouldn’t be the granting agency’s responsibility to be on the hook to support forever the discoveries they initially funded; and the community shouldn’t respond to $$ for software as OMG! But instead go - 1/2

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Jonathan Jacobs‏ @bioinformer 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bioinformer @torstenseemann and

      Ok - perhaps it’s fair for me to put a little something into the tip jar once a year to keep using tool XYZ that my team uses daily etc. of course - It gets complicated. But if labs were to be more open to this everywhere, then the need for the original developer 2/

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Torsten Seemann‏ @torstenseemann 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bioinformer @ELWillis10 and

      It would be an interesting exercise to calculate how many free software tools you use, and how much you would pay for each. What would the typical annual budget be? Do you include GNU and Linux Foundation too?

      5:14 PM - 8 Apr 2018
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        2. Jonathan Jacobs‏ @bioinformer 8 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @torstenseemann @ELWillis10 and

          Yes. I would pay for BLAST, GenBank, SRA, ClustalW, MUSCLE, CDHit, etc. if I had to, and I would grumble about it, but still be glad to do it. Especially if I knew the funds were going to support its continued development.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Keith Robison‏ @OmicsOmicsBlog 9 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @bioinformer @torstenseemann and

          Challenges: high friction; licensing nearly always involves slow, painful interaction w licensing office. Their incentives often an issue - low price means they can’t be bothered; high prices scare away customers

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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        2. Jonathan Jacobs‏ @bioinformer 8 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @torstenseemann @ELWillis10 and

          We pay for and use CentOS7, MacOS, RedHat, CLC bio, UNIVA, Illumina “conceierge” service, and a host of other commercial biofx pipelines by smaller startups and biotech’s. We develop everything else we need to fill the gaps, and are no strangers to using freeware.

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        3. Ghana Shyam Challa‏ @ChallaGShyam 8 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @bioinformer @torstenseemann and

          It is easy to convince Univ admin to buy an instrument than to pay for a software or a subscription. If you are only one using it then no way!

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