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    1. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29

      Watching Joe Rogan discuss female MMA with Steve-O is sort of an advert for everything people might see as degraded in America. Two men delighting in women “beating the shit” out of each other. There’s something very ugly and jaded about it. It’s no wonder people join IS.

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    2. The Logos of Post-Irony‏ @jbthazard Jul 29
      Replying to @tomxhart

      Haven't seen the clip in question but knowing Joe I imagine he was appreciating the fight the same way someone appreciates Olympics-level athletics. It's not so much about the violence as it is the talent and skill of the activity (I don't watch sports tho so maybe I'm off base)

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    3. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29
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      I don’t know. We’re not really in a position to make a judgement in modernity. However, standing back and thinking from a religious or archaic perspective, this would be horrifying to large swathes of humanity. “The barbarians make their women fight for their entertainment.”

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    4. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29
      Replying to @tomxhart @jbthazard

      Islam, for example, is quite against boxing. I once attended a boxing match in London’s East End. There was a Sudanese guy who had been dragged there by his Irish boss. He was trying to get into it, but in his heart he knew it was haram and didn’t like it. It was ugly to him.

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    5. The Logos of Post-Irony‏ @jbthazard Jul 29
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      Combat sports definitely require regulation and all participants should be willing. And as far as I know, women athletes, in the West at least, voluntarily pursue those ambitions.

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      Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29
      Replying to @jbthazard

      This is part of the problem of the West. We’re obsessed with the idea that so long as we do something voluntarily, ”consensually”, it’s okay. It originates with JS Mill. It doesn’t make sense if you think about the wider chains of what a human is.

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        2. The Logos of Post-Irony‏ @jbthazard Jul 29
          Replying to @tomxhart

          Again, regulations. Just because sometimes 10 year olds "consent" to be intimate with pedophiliac predators doesn't make it okay. On the other hand if someone voluntarily ruins their life via, say, addictive tendencies that doesn't impact others, I can't say I wish to interfere

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        3. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29
          Replying to @jbthazard

          The problem with this argument, Mill’s “self-referential act”, is that “no man is an island”. The idea that someone ruining themselves with drugs only affects himself is not true, they damage family, friends & society. This liberal approach relies on an atomistic fiction.

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        4. The Logos of Post-Irony‏ @jbthazard Jul 29
          Replying to @tomxhart

          Of course but pain is unavoidable in any given decision. A voluntary suicide bereaves a family, a student who wants to study music disappoints a family who wanted them to be a doctor. I'm not particularly interested in reducing overall suffering in the world. It's a fool's errand

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        5. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 29
          Replying to @jbthazard

          I think you’d have to discriminate between displeasure and pain. I don’t think pain is unavoidable, but whether pain is desirable or not in any circumstance is open to question. Pain may, in certain circumstances, be desirable.

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        6. The Logos of Post-Irony‏ @jbthazard Jul 29
          Replying to @tomxhart

          I agree, it's why I switched over to the word "suffering" in subsequent tweets

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