Haven't seen the clip in question but knowing Joe I imagine he was appreciating the fight the same way someone appreciates Olympics-level athletics. It's not so much about the violence as it is the talent and skill of the activity (I don't watch sports tho so maybe I'm off base)
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I don’t know. We’re not really in a position to make a judgement in modernity. However, standing back and thinking from a religious or archaic perspective, this would be horrifying to large swathes of humanity. “The barbarians make their women fight for their entertainment.”
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Islam, for example, is quite against boxing. I once attended a boxing match in London’s East End. There was a Sudanese guy who had been dragged there by his Irish boss. He was trying to get into it, but in his heart he knew it was haram and didn’t like it. It was ugly to him.
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Combat sports definitely require regulation and all participants should be willing. And as far as I know, women athletes, in the West at least, voluntarily pursue those ambitions.
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This is part of the problem of the West. We’re obsessed with the idea that so long as we do something voluntarily, ”consensually”, it’s okay. It originates with JS Mill. It doesn’t make sense if you think about the wider chains of what a human is.
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Again, regulations. Just because sometimes 10 year olds "consent" to be intimate with pedophiliac predators doesn't make it okay. On the other hand if someone voluntarily ruins their life via, say, addictive tendencies that doesn't impact others, I can't say I wish to interfere
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The problem with this argument, Mill’s “self-referential act”, is that “no man is an island”. The idea that someone ruining themselves with drugs only affects himself is not true, they damage family, friends & society. This liberal approach relies on an atomistic fiction.
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Of course but pain is unavoidable in any given decision. A voluntary suicide bereaves a family, a student who wants to study music disappoints a family who wanted them to be a doctor. I'm not particularly interested in reducing overall suffering in the world. It's a fool's errand
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