The very rapid change in UK median opinion mostly happened after 1999 if you were to check the BSA data series. Certainly Stonewall and Eastenders and some elected politicians (eg GLC) played an important role prior to that when it was a more contentious issue.
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I guess you are probably much too young to recall or know that the 1997 govt, including first gay Cabinet minister (first out gay MP back in 1985), certainly played a significant role well before 2005.
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But those things were unthinkable in, say, 1960. My question to you is what changed? I want to know if you believe in some magic “progress”, “zeitgeist” or whatever, or do you acknowledge social change comes through activism, usually driven by small groups initially
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Replying to @tomdupresh @ukonward
On gay rights, lots of factors pre & post decriminalisation. Cultural activism certainly part of it. I suspect you rather underestimate the importance of personal & family social contact in shifting attitudes and entrenching the shift. Can you reverse that? It seems difficult
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Not trying to reverse it, as I’m sure you know
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Replying to @tomdupresh @ukonward
I didn't know. Why not? You have to remember like most people, I have heard almost zip about you. Am aware of a bit of pissing around on boats in the Med with pan-European racists & noelw this curious idea that hipster racism is somehow less toxic; not more annoying.
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Replying to @sundersays @ukonward
Apologies, we don’t think it’s an important issue; unlike mass immigration that’s been going on forever!
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Replying to @tomdupresh @ukonward
You contradict yourself. You were noting the social shift was in the last 3 decades & was "unthinkable" in 1960 a few minutes ago. Its a more recent & more rapid shift than race. Still, good to see the retreat from your group's recent intellectual antecedents
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Replying to @sundersays @ukonward
I don’t mean the change in views has been going on forever, I mean the activity itself. attitudes on that are linked to Christianity more than anything in Europe. Interestingly young people in London are now more “conservative” on this issue, due in part to migration.
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@epkaufm's work here is the pivot, demonstrating that once folk are made aware of demographic reality a significant shift in opinion happens: best strategy for GI w/Great Replacement frame. Best opp strat is to ctrl availability of this data.https://policyexchange.org.uk/why-culture-trumps-skills-public-opinion-on-immigration/ …1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
Interesting read thanks
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