Romanticism is bad.
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Replying to @tomdupresh @robiwalker
I'm not sure that I'm quite getting your definition of romanticism. How confident are you that it isn't idiosyncratic?
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Replying to @Outsideness @robiwalker
(1) https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69477/romanticism-and-classicism … Faith in limitless capabilities of man, but replaced with technology. Singularity is a romantic concept. It is idiosyncratic and also anti-human romanticism isn’t ‘romantic’ in the conventional sense but you mentioned in the Justin Murphy interview...
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(2) an “exciting wave” and sense of possibility in the 90’s that ended with a “Facebook era”. Before, romantic faith that technologically would radically alter (or destroy) society, and (key) it would happen soon was present. After FB era I’d say the “romantic” charge is unfair.
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doesn't both of these points actually undermine your charge?
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How so? I say (early) land is anti-human romanticism. Late Land is closer to straight anti-human classicism. The two can be split out
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Replying to @tomdupresh @cyborg_nomade and
(By the two I mean humanism and romanticism, not early and late Land, but obviously both can be)
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well, (1) is undermined by replacing humanity with capital. and (2) because you admit so by the last line.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @tomdupresh and
as an aside, I don't think early and late Land can actually be separated. it's all about the convergent wave of capital escape.
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I think the focus massively shifted in the 00s. The early period was way less directly political, and also almost millennialist - it was happening now. Doubt has been inserted. Beyond content the style is less aggressively experimental (and tbh more readable as a result) now also
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