Tim O'Reilly
Marco Salvi
@timoreilly NSA master plan or simply design by committee? We shouldn't attribute to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity.
Some details on how the NSA subverted the IPSec standards process http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html …
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@marcosalvi@timoreilly well they've been very systemically stupid in that case which would be unusual - usually stupid is random. -
@jwindz@timoreilly my point is that it is a bit too easy to interpret events a posteriori, we can build pretty much any story we want -
@marcosalvi@timoreilly no, we can't build any story we want; the story must have facts consistent with all the other things we know.
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Gah. MT
@timoreilly Details from John Gilmore re: NSA subverting IPSec standards process http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html … -
@terrellrussell that is painful to read. -
@coxn just shows the fundamental building blocks are so far removed from the apps/hardware and companies who sell them -
@terrellrussell https://wiki.openitp.org/events:techno-activism_3rd_mondays:durham … possibly good place to share.
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#mustread “@timoreilly: Some details on how the NSA subverted the IPSec standards process http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html …" -
@timoreilly@villoks that simplification happened, its called IKEv2 + tunnel mode ESP and no frills... -
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@timoreilly: Some details on how the NSA subverted the IPSec standards process http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html …”#ITM3 -
@timoreilly And Rijndael beat Schneier's TwoFish in the AES competition because it was WEAKER?
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