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    Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 17 Feb 2018

    I don’t understand why web developers can’t just stick to plain old html. It’s way too often that something fancy breaks functionality

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      1. Boris VAN HOYTEMA‏ @bvhme 17 Feb 2018
        Replying to @thijsniks

        I very much agree with this, most front end libraries are used without a good reason.

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      1. An Act of Will‏ @anactofwill 17 Feb 2018
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        After speaking with a high schooler, I keep asking myself now: "Does this site that I'm about to build really need to be built on WordPress?

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      2. leicalemur‏ @leicalemur 17 Feb 2018
        Replying to @thijsniks @zeldman

        Because we need to do more than display content? We have to interact with the user and modify said HTML on the fly, client side, to give them a good and useful experience? Context, web sites are very different creatures, every one of them.

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      3. Chris Schmied‏ @sweetpea_chris 17 Feb 2018
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        pic.twitter.com/hfuKwF05iL

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      1. Brian LePore‏ @POWRSURG 17 Feb 2018
        Replying to @thijsniks @zeldman

        for a feature I built at work I made it work without js, but better with it. I then detected it the user had data saver http headers & chose to not serve that js. Between the detection and the lack of 500 dependencies I think I triggered most modern web devs.

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      1. Andreas Kihlberg‏ @khlbrg 18 Feb 2018
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        There is a a lot reasons imho.. server side always requires a fresh reload.. which increases the bandwidth and load on the server.. Building moderns sites with js lets you minimize number of requests, cache as close to the user as possible, only push information the user wants

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      1. Andreas Kihlberg‏ @khlbrg 18 Feb 2018
        Replying to @rogerjohansson @thijsniks

        Yeah, I agree, but I did interpret the original tweet that no js/ajax should be used, because it breaks stuff.. But I guess stuff can break on the server as well

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      1. Andreas Kihlberg‏ @khlbrg 18 Feb 2018
        Replying to @rogerjohansson @thijsniks

        Also not sure why you was included in the tweet :)

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      1. Andrew Woods‏ @awoods 19 Feb 2018
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        web developers use elaborate JS frameworks because they don’t value or respect HTML/CSS. That is the truth. Anything else is a justification to support their biases.

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