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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      Wouldn't car owners just still pay the taxes under the new system? We could just increase the tax rate. Or we switch to a per kilometer model. Or we add a usage tax on sharing platforms. Or we do a gazillion of the other options we have available.

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    2. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      If the model you've put forward depends on public funding, that should depend on whether maintaining a public road network for the use of a few corporations is the most efficient use of public resources...

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    3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      I'm really not following your arguments here. How is this for a few corporations if lots of people use it? And in the current model road taxes are already part of car usage, so why would that not work in the new model?

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    4. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Because your model allows for-profit corporations to extract rent for the use of a public good.

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    5. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      So you charge/tax them. This is not rocket science.

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    6. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Will that charge/tax not just be passed on to the user?

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    7. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      Yes, it would be passed on. That’s the point, right? We want to charge people for usage, regardless of the transport mode. And you can subsidies transport for low-income groups, regardless of the transport mode.

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    8. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Okay. Does your business model still work if you're made responsible for the full cost of maintaining the road network and that cost is reflected in usage fees?

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    9. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      I don't see why the road cost per passenger mile would increase between now and under the self-driving system, so yes

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    10. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      In a country such as Canada, for instance, close to half of government spending on roads is derived from revenue sources unrelated to actual road usage.

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      They can continue to do so if they think that it unlocks economic growth or improves social cohesion

      11:19 AM - 1 Jan 2018
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