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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 30 Dec 2017

      End of the thread, for now. To be continued.pic.twitter.com/KOFO6PmmaY

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    2. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Who pays for the roads?

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    3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      Who pays now?

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    4. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Taxpayers collectively, since a broad majority own cars. If car ownership is to be concentrated in the hands of a few corporate service providers, that equation will change. In effect, the 'competitiveness' of the model you've described depends on a massive public subsidy.

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    5. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      There seems to be a disconnect between ownership and usage in your argument. Apart from that, it really isn’t a very interesting aspect of this all. We will figure it out as long as a large enough part of society benefits from it.

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    6. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Of course there's a disconnect. Car owners pay taxes to fund a road network that allows them to use their own cars. Users of transportation services, expect transportation service providers to compete to provide the best service at the best price.

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    7. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      Wouldn't car owners just still pay the taxes under the new system? We could just increase the tax rate. Or we switch to a per kilometer model. Or we add a usage tax on sharing platforms. Or we do a gazillion of the other options we have available.

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    8. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      If the model you've put forward depends on public funding, that should depend on whether maintaining a public road network for the use of a few corporations is the most efficient use of public resources...

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    9. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      I'm really not following your arguments here. How is this for a few corporations if lots of people use it? And in the current model road taxes are already part of car usage, so why would that not work in the new model?

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    10. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Because your model allows for-profit corporations to extract rent for the use of a public good.

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
      Replying to @keirp

      So you charge/tax them. This is not rocket science.

      9:29 AM - 1 Jan 2018
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        2. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Will that charge/tax not just be passed on to the user?

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 1 Jan 2018
          Replying to @keirp

          Yes, it would be passed on. That’s the point, right? We want to charge people for usage, regardless of the transport mode. And you can subsidies transport for low-income groups, regardless of the transport mode.

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        1. Keir Plaice‏ @keirp 1 Jan 2018
          Replying to @thijsniks

          The rent of (roads), considered as the price paid for the use of (roads), is naturally a monopoly price. It is not at all proportioned to what the (corp.) may have laid out upon the improvement of (roads)or to what he can afford to take; but to what the (user) can afford to give.

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