I'll agree on you with the infrastructure but ticketing a cyclist is the wrong way to deal with it. Redesign the road. Ticketing is just going to discourage people from cycling at all.
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Replying to @ow @TaylorSicard
I am down with ticketing cyclists that blow through stop signs but the speed limit thing seems pretty random unless it's by an excessive amount.
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Replying to @lmcdo_ @TaylorSicard
Hmm there's definitely a conversation there. Most cities that are cycle friendly/safe actually implement rolling stop laws for cyclists as it's actually found to be much safer.
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Replying to @ow @TaylorSicard
Rolling stop is not what I'm referring to, plenty of cyclists in Portland suburbs continue through stop signs at nearly full speed and it's exhausting as a driver. Requires more attention than pedestrians and other cars alike
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Replying to @lmcdo_ @TaylorSicard
Oh yeah for sure. I wonder if this is why the Dutch don't really have them, I rarely saw a stop sign in the Netherlands. I was perplexed by how many there are in North America
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Replying to @ow @TaylorSicard
Lol suburbs are the worst for them and the US has plenty of suburbs, makes sense
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Replying to @lmcdo_ @TaylorSicard
Yeah for real, it blew my mind when I first visited! So few roundabouts compared to back home, constantly stopping
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Stop signs are the laziest and clunkiest form of traffic engineering, but sadly most North American cities don’t know any better
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Replying to @thijsniks @ow and
The usage of stop signs in north america is IMO overkill and ridiculous. So frustrating as both a driver and cyclist and I think that's what leads to their abuse.
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Agreed. One reason stop signs are so prevalent is because North American cities generally allow everyone to use every road, instead of designing traffic networks to separate transport modeshttps://youtu.be/c1l75QqRR48
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