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    1. Gergely Orosz‏ @GergelyOrosz Jan 18

      Gergely Orosz Retweeted Thijs Niks

      I asked an early Adyen engineer what they’ll do after the $50B IPO. (The same engineer at Uber/Stripe would conservatively have $2M+ vested stock - realistically 10x this). Angel invest? Start a company? This person didn’t understand. They had less than $20K in stock.https://twitter.com/thijsniks/status/1351087028029566976 …

      Gergely Orosz added,

      Thijs Niks @thijsniks
      To be honest though: I assume one of the spin-off effects Gurley expects from 3 decacorns is early employees using their stock option returns to reinvest in the ecosystem. Which doesn’t happen in Amsterdam, because Dutch companies are stingy.
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    2. Arvid Kahl‏ @arvidkahl Jan 18
      Replying to @GergelyOrosz

      That hurts to read :/ (But it will allow for one angel investment :P)

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. Gergely Orosz‏ @GergelyOrosz Jan 18
      Replying to @arvidkahl

      On one end: good for founders/investors. On the other: the founder / CEO of http://Takeway.com  also does zero investments in the local startup economy. 🤷‍♂️ At Uber, many of my colleagues angel inveted actively - re-investing some of the equity gains. Especially in the US.

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    4. Arvid Kahl‏ @arvidkahl Jan 18
      Replying to @GergelyOrosz

      It definitely feels like the pay-it-forward spirit is stronger in the Valley startup world. Could be a European taxation and bureaucracy problem. Most employee stock compensation schemes are super complex here, to the point where businesses don't even bother.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
      Replying to @arvidkahl @GergelyOrosz

      Employee options are relatively easy to do in the Netherlands, but companies don’t have to because few of their competitors offer it. Silicon Valley wouldn’t do it either if it wasn’t for competition

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Filip Sturman‏ @FilipSturman Jan 18
      Replying to @thijsniks @arvidkahl @GergelyOrosz

      We are setting up ours right now across Europe (we are a distributed team w folks in +10 countries) and it's a real pain. Hard to find a blanket solution for all countries, and it's too expensive and inefficient to adapt it to specific countries.

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
      Replying to @FilipSturman @arvidkahl @GergelyOrosz

      Yup, cross country is hard

      2:46 PM - 18 Jan 2021
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        1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks @FilipSturman and

          Which is also why American startups don’t do that till later rounds

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