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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 17

      Thijs Niks Retweeted Bill Gurley

      Amsterdam: $87b Booking $65b Adyen $16b Takeawayhttps://twitter.com/bgurley/status/1350869336978690049 …

      Thijs Niks added,

      Bill GurleyVerified account @bgurley
      Michael - love to see entrepreneurship spread. To have a vibrant ecosystem, I think you need three independent public companies north of $10b market cap that were founded in region. @Chewy qualifies. Seattle has this, NYC just recently qualified. LA close. It can take a while. https://twitter.com/Michaeludine/status/1350868195066982401 …
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    2. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18

      To be honest though: I assume one of the spin-off effects Gurley expects from 3 decacorns is early employees using their stock option returns to reinvest in the ecosystem. Which doesn’t happen in Amsterdam, because Dutch companies are stingy.

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    3. Onno Blom‏ @Onnoblom Jan 18
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Feel like this is a two-way problem: I've heard from multiple founders that European employees don't tend to value equity as much as Americans—let alone give up salary for it—which makes it more attractive to simply give it to investors. Would love to see this change though.

      4 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    4. Ivan Ivankovic  🚀  📄‏ @MrIvanIvankovic Jan 18
      Replying to @Onnoblom @thijsniks

      This is quite usual case. What I've seen is that people woukd rather have salary slightly higer and they are ready to ket go any equity. But, my hypothesis is that this is because *equity* in Europe wasn't valuable and there were no exits But with a couple of exits it will turn

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    5. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
      Replying to @MrIvanIvankovic @Onnoblom

      Exactly this. Situation in the Netherlands would have been very different if Booking and Adyen had done stock options. So the question is how you kickstart that cycle.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Ivan Ivankovic  🚀  📄‏ @MrIvanIvankovic Jan 18
      Replying to @thijsniks @Onnoblom

      You said it yourself. Offer US style equity packages and prove that it will worth some serious money. After a couple of employees from a couple of companies earn millions, others will look at equity differently

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
      Replying to @MrIvanIvankovic @Onnoblom

      Right, but how do you motivate those early companies? Booking, Adyen, and Takeaway didn’t do it. Mollie doesn’t do it. Etc.

      11:22 AM - 18 Jan 2021
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        2. Ivan Ivankovic  🚀  📄‏ @MrIvanIvankovic Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks @Onnoblom

          That's tougher part to solve. Ill have to look at the data, but my gut feeling is telling me that the situation is changing here in Europe. But, @domjacquesson probably knows it better

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        3. dominic jacquesson‏ @domjacquesson Jan 18
          Replying to @MrIvanIvankovic @thijsniks @Onnoblom

          1/2 Thanks Ivan. There is some ‘chicken and egg’ but the effect of stock options spreads... the fact that they’re common in London and Paris means they’ll spread across Europe and become the accepted norm. Big exits accelerates this - either people doing well, or failing to...

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