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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 17

      Thijs Niks Retweeted Bill Gurley

      Amsterdam: $87b Booking $65b Adyen $16b Takeawayhttps://twitter.com/bgurley/status/1350869336978690049 …

      Thijs Niks added,

      Bill GurleyVerified account @bgurley
      Michael - love to see entrepreneurship spread. To have a vibrant ecosystem, I think you need three independent public companies north of $10b market cap that were founded in region. @Chewy qualifies. Seattle has this, NYC just recently qualified. LA close. It can take a while. https://twitter.com/Michaeludine/status/1350868195066982401 …
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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18

      To be honest though: I assume one of the spin-off effects Gurley expects from 3 decacorns is early employees using their stock option returns to reinvest in the ecosystem. Which doesn’t happen in Amsterdam, because Dutch companies are stingy.

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        2. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18

          Proposals for what the Netherlands could do to increase the number of (tech) startups often boil down to “more subsidies.” Instead, we should consider 3 systemic changes: ⁃ Incentivize stock compensation ⁃ Simplify corporate bankruptcy ⁃ Ban non-compete clauses

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 21

          Adyen had a surprisingly decent employee equity pool of 20% at IPO (of which 1/10 was awarded to two executives) https://www.adyen.com/dam/jcr:ab990e2d-7911-44b7-8932-beeec4809eba/Adyen%2520Prospectus.pdf …pic.twitter.com/AF99DwQlRx

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        1. Alper Çuğun-Gscheidel  🏴 🌻 🔰 💉 💉‏Verified account @alper Jan 18
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          Alper Çuğun-Gscheidel  🏴 🌻 🔰 💉 💉 Retweeted Alper Çuğun-Gscheidel  🏴 🌻 🔰 💉 💉

          Analogously here, Europe doesn’t have enough “live players” because all of the money is tied down in hereditary wealth:https://twitter.com/alper/status/1350741690341089283 …

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          Replying to @meghafon @SamoBurja
          The European idea of freedom seems to mean that you can’t pay or force people to be “live”. I agree that this is disastrous.
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        2. Onno Blom‏ @Onnoblom Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Feel like this is a two-way problem: I've heard from multiple founders that European employees don't tend to value equity as much as Americans—let alone give up salary for it—which makes it more attractive to simply give it to investors. Would love to see this change though.

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        3. Ivan Ivankovic  🚀  📄‏ @MrIvanIvankovic Jan 18
          Replying to @Onnoblom @thijsniks

          This is quite usual case. What I've seen is that people woukd rather have salary slightly higer and they are ready to ket go any equity. But, my hypothesis is that this is because *equity* in Europe wasn't valuable and there were no exits But with a couple of exits it will turn

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        2. Christian Hernandez‏ @christianhern Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks

          It's partly employers, partly European employees (and tax regimes on options). Your avg Valley PM understands the value of options given their peer's succeses. Less so in Europe where cash wins > options in their minds. From archiveshttps://medium.com/crossing-the-pond/the-building-blocks-of-a-tech-ecosystem-74b799ce9d00 …

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
          Replying to @christianhern

          So the question is how you kickstart that cycle

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        2. Joel Basson‏ @joelbasson Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks

          I thought Adyen was better with stock options?

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
          Replying to @joelbasson

          Nope. Have you seen one single news article about early employees who did well?

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        2. Mats Stafseng Einarsen‏ @matseinarsen Jan 18
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Really interesting discussion. However, plenty of people, inc engineers, have left booking with enough money and connections to reinvest into startups. Why that hasn’t really converted into unicorns is hard to say.

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks Jan 18
          Replying to @matseinarsen

          Depends on what you consider “enough money” for angel investing. At a €10k ticket size, 30 investments, and 20% of net worth, you need about €1.5m to make it a reasonable thing to do. How many Booking people have that?

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