“If we’re going off of data, how would that be racist?” — oh oh, that’s one of the most dangerous sentences in especially the United States. Current data is generated by past (racist) decisions.
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Replying to @thijsniks
Yes and no; perhaps you can give me an alternate opinion that will increase my understanding of the situation. Every police department keeps records on the traffic incidents they respond to. If the goal is to cut down on car crashes, what’s wrong with analyzing traffic...
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Replying to @Snuggie_Deluxe @thijsniks
accidents and determining the hot areas that need policing (policing in the sense of further enforcement of traffic violations). Is this conceptually discriminatory?
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Replying to @Snuggie_Deluxe
Just using hot areas as a place to put cameras is discriminatory. Enforcement is one of the tools that should be used to increase traffic safety.
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Replying to @thijsniks @Snuggie_Deluxe
A historic underinvestment in calming streets, separated bike lanes, safe corners, etc, should not result in putting more cameras. Especially in the US, where fine revenue directly benefits the city or even the police department budget, creating strong incentives to tax the poor.
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Replying to @thijsniks @Snuggie_Deluxe
Instead, the analysis should focus on: What is the best tool we have to increase safety in this area? And if the answer is speed enforcement, then placing cameras makes sense. But that should probably be your last resort.
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Replying to @thijsniks
I still have a problem with this. I don’t see how speeding is discriminatory. Are you inferring that only poor people speed? Or are you trying to say that the placement of speed cameras is in poor communities?
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Replying to @Snuggie_Deluxe
Speeding is the result of bad infrastructure, which America tends to put mostly in poor neighborhoods. You can’t fix that with traffic cameras.
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Replying to @thijsniks
Why isn’t speeding the result of an individuals carelessness and selfishness?
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Replying to @Snuggie_Deluxe
There are whole books and university courses on that topic, but suffice to say that addressing individual behavior in the hope to see systemic improvements is missing the forest for the trees
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And it ignores the bat shit insane way the US currently sets speed limits https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/1/25/speed-kills-so-why-do-we-keep-designing-for-it …pic.twitter.com/SyVrXDaZ4A
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