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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 12 Jul 2020

      We have lived in the US for 18 months now and had to deal with more fraudulent charges on our cards and bank accounts (about $2000 😳) than in the previous 30 years of living in Europe (a nice round $0). I just don’t understand everyone is ok with this broken system.

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    2. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 12 Jul 2020

      Also interesting to see that a bunch of these fraudulent card charges are mimicking Amazon, but Amazon says it wasn’t them

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    3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 12 Jul 2020

      And perhaps even stranger is Amazon customer service confirming that some of these charges were made from Amazon accounts which had already been blocked for fraud, yet they refuse to provide refunds and tell me to dispute these with my bank

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    4. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 12 Jul 2020

      This is getting curious: I got a new debit card in February and there were 3 fraudulent Amazon transactions in June, so if my card details were swiped or leaked it happened in the preceding months at… the California DMV? (Quite certain I didn’t give my card number away)pic.twitter.com/gb3tcuxqFk

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    5. Mark Norman‏ @nzmark 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Were the DMV payments made at point of sale or online?

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    6. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @nzmark

      Point of sale

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    7. Mark Norman‏ @nzmark 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Assuming you didn’t hand over your card and let someone skim it out of sight, if it was the DMV, it would imply that somewhere in their payments setup (or one of their providers) there’s been a successful attack.

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    8. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 14 Jul 2020
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      Yup. Or it was a card-on-file merchant using Account Updater. Neither would be a good scenariohttps://twitter.com/thijsniks/status/1282547487337668608 …

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      Thijs Niks @thijsniks
      If the Amazon charges are indeed fraudulent, my card details could be leaked through: (a) Me being a dummy and accidentally showing my card to a scammer (b) The DMV terminals being skimmed (c) A merchant using Account Updater https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/merchants/visa-account-updater-product-information-fact-sheet-for-merchants.pdf … (d) Something else? pic.twitter.com/BocmZX6v36
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    9. Mark Norman‏ @nzmark 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Either way, it’s someone who should have PCI DSS compliance who’s been hit. Very bad. I guess if this was a replacement card, it would not be practical to look at all the merchants where you used the original?

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @nzmark

      I could actually go back further. Only had the original card for a year and barely used it. Might be interesting! Though could be that it was on file somewhere but never charged

      10:09 AM - 14 Jul 2020
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        1. Mark Norman‏ @nzmark 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          That could be interesting, if you can spot an earlier merchant. The earlier merchant scenario means their breach must have been after the card was updated; DMV scenario means breach was after your transactions there (maybe it’s an ongoing breach). Both quite unlikely but possible

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