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    1. Casey Newton‏Verified account @CaseyNewton 16 Jun 2020

      Casey Newton Retweeted DHH

      This is not your typical developer hyperbole. Apple’s behavior here is truly inexplicable and I imagine it will have implications for the various antitrust investigations now underwayhttps://twitter.com/dhh/status/1272968382329942017 …

      Casey Newton added,

      DHHVerified account @dhh
      Wow. I'm literally stunned. Apple just doubled down on their rejection of HEY's ability to provide bug fixes and new features, unless we submit to their outrageous demand of 15-30% of our revenue. Even worse: We're told that unless we comply, they'll REMOVE THE APP.
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    2. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @CaseyNewton

      but it is — there’s no requirement for consistency when policies change

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Casey Newton‏Verified account @CaseyNewton 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @snapster

      well it’s not clear any policy has changed, though, right. capricious enforcement like this undermines their antitrust defenses

      1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
    4. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @CaseyNewton

      if your guide is the evolving state of policy at time of approval it is not capricious, it is precise and logical it is only inconsistent when you pretend to not see the loophole closing policy evolution.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Casey Newton‏Verified account @CaseyNewton 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @snapster

      i don’t really follow what you’re saying here. my point is just: you can change rules whenever you like, but if you enforce them inconsistently don’t be surprised when the regulators show up

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    6. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @CaseyNewton

      what I’m saying is that the rules are applied at the time of approval and the rules can change leaving different apps “legacy approved” I believe you’re suggesting that past approvals be reversed, which would, in my interpretation, be capricious.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Casey Newton‏Verified account @CaseyNewton 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @snapster

      aha! I can understand why you’d grandfather certain things — like allowing existing fart apps to remain in the store while not approving others. but saying ‘we won’t take 30 percent from these older email apps but we will from new ones’ seems blatantly anti-competitive

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    8. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @CaseyNewton

      15% after year 1. So the government should stop Apple from granting legacy exemptions in honor of early platform support?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Casey Newton‏Verified account @CaseyNewton 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @snapster

      I would frame the question differently in this case, since Hey is not generating any direct revenue from iOS. If they were selling in-app subs, by all means, charge that 15%. but to take a third of revenue when they’re not even selling subs on iOS seems outrageous to me

      4 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    10. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @CaseyNewton

      I absolutely agree if that framing is correct. I am operating under assumption that framing is hyperbole.

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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @snapster @CaseyNewton

      The framing is correct

      8:02 PM - 16 Jun 2020
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        1. Matt Rutledge‏Verified account @snapster 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks @CaseyNewton

          no it’s laughably incorrect as is stated by others to Casey

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