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    1. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 9 Apr 2020

      Alright folks, I need your help: The English-language web seems to have figured out that Taiwan uses cellular location for contact tracing and Singapore uses an app. But what does South Korea use?

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    2. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 14 Apr 2020
      Replying to @thijsniks

      In Korea, general public is not using an app to devulge their GPS and cellular location to the health authorities as many overseas might believe. Tracking is only done for small population that are required to quarantine. 3/n

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    3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jkim0914

      Interesting. So contact tracing for the general population is limited to credit cards, security cameras, and public transport trips? But not phone location? Do you happen to have a link to a Korean/English source for this?

      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @thijsniks

      Joseph CH Kim Retweeted Mortal

      Please refer to Korean govt's official manual on Covid19 response (in English). App use is on page 35 & contact tracing on page 41. See link. 5/nhttps://twitter.com/moohann1/status/1250555506277494784?s=20 …

      Joseph CH Kim added,

      Mortal @moohann1
      대한민국 정부 코로나19 가이드북 발간 https://twitter.com/koryodynasty/status/1250395736161820676 …
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      Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jkim0914

      Ok, so if I understand this correctly: Korea uses manual tracing first and, if that eventually fails, they can use network location on a case by case basispic.twitter.com/t9x5KL2a4K

      8:25 PM - 15 Apr 2020
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        1. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Far as I know, tracing is basically all done manual. GPS is used along with CCTV/Ccard/etc to re-verify patient's testimony. Limited info of +ve case's path is released to the public for general population to avoid it or come forth voluntarily for testing. No live-time tracking.

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        1. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Live-time network is only used for those in compulsory quarantine via govt's app. App used to relay symptoms twice a day and tracks location via phone so that they do not break quarantine. Also actual low-tech random phone calls used check whether they leave without their phone.

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        2. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          So to reiterate, location data from the past is used only when needed on an already identified patient to determine their past path of movement. Known contacts that are identified is first tested and if they test positive than their past path of movement is mapped and shared too.

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        3. Thijs Niks‏ @thijsniks 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @jkim0914

          Thank you! This is super insightful

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        1. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          This path info is released and those in population that think they might have come in contact, voluntarily come forth to get tested catching cases govt might have missed. Data also compiled by private entities and mapped onto various apps & sites for ease of uses by the masses.

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        1. Joseph CH Kim‏ @jkim0914 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thijsniks

          Lastly, Korea isn't using fancy high-tech super big brother surveillance system to oppressively track sheepish citizens like many falsely claim. Korea is a democracy with same high regard for privacy as the west. It's using common sense measures w/ as little violation as possible

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