there's a longer story here that i'll save for another time, but in general i just use my dutch account + revolut... but now that i've officially moved it's about to get a lot more complicated
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So… I actually think Maestro+iDeal is a stroke of genius (low fraud, low cost) and every (European) country should do it.
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Replying to @thijsniks @juanbuis and
Paying directly for accounts is an equity problem, but unfortunately a side-effect of negative interest rates.
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Payment requests work well now. Transfers are instant. ING app is good. Apple Pay is supported. What’s missing?
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I'm not saying Credit Card companies aren't shit, but you miss out on a *lot* of proven infrastructure with iDEAL
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I’m very aware (after making payments work globally for Uber for 5 years), but that’s mostly inertia not great system design. Build iDeal for the eurozone and all of the sudden it’s a seriously supported option. Card networks are so hacked together.
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Ugh, I know there are fraud benefits but, I would vote against this so hard. Every ideal payment feels painful/annoying to me/if a store took only ideal I would buy elsewhere probably, but each to their own.
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I don’t share that feeling at all. Redirect through app on phone or handover from desktop to phone with QR code both work very smoothly. Much more reliable than having a browser auto fill card number and address (??)
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Not to mention nobody seems to get this right. Transferwise, for example, doesn't load the callback half the time so you lose your money for a bit. Apple's callback had a 500 error for a while so you could pay them money repeatedly while they said you didn't pay
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Yup, but all of that goes away with market share. Right now, companies just don’t bother. Fundamentally, iDeal is a much more reliable and modern system than cards
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Authorizing $0 or $1 vs charge vs charge+tip. Chargebacks. 3DSecure. Etc. All bullshit and it’s so unreliable
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