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PhD student writing on Thomas Pynchon and the Posthuman Gothic. Literary & critical theory, aesthetics, ecology. All views are my own, etc. 🐙‼️🤖

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    Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16

    A Theory-Fiction Reading List 2.0: Now with more titles, attempts at sub-divisions, and fewer misspellings.pic.twitter.com/HThnNKmKz4

    5:39 AM - 16 Sep 2018
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      2. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16

        Gregory Marks Retweeted Gregory Marks

        Here's the original list, with lots of good discussions in the thread, and other books which haven't made it to the expanded list:https://twitter.com/thewastedworld/status/1017427669338607616 …

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        A Theory-Fiction Reading List: pic.twitter.com/53rB5CL6Lm
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      3. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16

        The first half of the list deals with theoretical titles which utilise fictional forms, while the second half is fiction with theoretical content. The second page occupies the middle-ground between these two, including the texts out of which "theory-fiction" emerged as a concept.

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      4. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16

        Gregory Marks Retweeted Gregory Marks

        The sub-divisions are of course tentative, and many of the titles could have been placed elsewhere. The purpose here isn't to birth a genre, but to give an overview of the interzone between two established forms, where high theory is brought down to earth.https://twitter.com/thewastedworld/status/1027606571352649728 …

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        Theory-fiction is not only the intersection of theory and fiction, but the “dissolution of the opposition itself” (Fisher 1999, p 156). Theory is torn down from its pedestal, the real power of fiction is affirmed, and both are released from the high forms of the academy. pic.twitter.com/sO8ZHRmBjx
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      5. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16

        Gregory Marks Retweeted Simon Sellars

        Recently, @ballardian spelled out the issue quite nicely: "I don’t think theory-fiction is a genre, [it] is more like an attitude [...] The world is so chaotic that no overarching theory can ever hope to explain it. So, the form itself leaks and cracks."https://twitter.com/ballardian/status/1040934692831129600 …

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        Simon Sellars @ballardian
        “Applied Ballardianism almost kills him. That’s the point...” The Quietus interviews me about my new book. We discuss the nature of theory-fiction, the madness of academia and the acceleration of the suburban apocalypse... http://thequietus.com/articles/25293-applied-ballardianism-simon-sellars-interview …
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      2. wenjimi‏ @JimiWen Sep 16
        Replying to @thewastedworld

        How did you come across Kamo No Chōmei? It seems like it is the only Far East Asian literature you have listed.

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      3. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 16
        Replying to @JimiWen

        From memory, it was recommended in the first thread. Ugetsu Monogatari is also on there (thanks @LaniAlden!), although you're right that the list is strongly skewed toward Western literature.

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      4. wenjimi‏ @JimiWen Sep 17
        Replying to @thewastedworld @LaniAlden

        Maybe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber … Though I am not sure where it would be placed on the theory-fiction continuum.

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      5. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 17
        Replying to @JimiWen @LaniAlden

        Possibly somewhere in the fiction-as-theory camp. It also just occurred to me that the Zhuangzi is a notable absence on the theory-as-fiction list. I guess I'll have to start on List 3.0.

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      6. wenjimi‏ @JimiWen Sep 17
        Replying to @thewastedworld @LaniAlden

        Yes Zhuangzi definitely theory as fiction. Yijing/I-Ching perhaps have some poetic(ness) to its theories...

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      8. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 17
        Replying to @LaniAlden @JimiWen

        If I were to give a strict definition of theory-fiction, I would (following Fisher) restrict it to the era of late capitalism. The main reason for including earlier books was one of genealogy: Lucretius, Nietzsche, and Kafka all feed into the CCRU milieu that birthed the concept.

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      2. Louis M-L‏ @Lmorus Sep 20
        Replying to @thewastedworld

        I'm finding myself reading Flaubert's Temptation of Saint Anthony right now and it seems it would possibly fit the list ?

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      3. Dr. Jauge‏ @drjauge Sep 20
        Replying to @Lmorus @thewastedworld

        Not to do the endless recommendation thing, but I would also throw Flann O'Brien's 'The Third Policeman' onto list 3.0 (in 'Theoretical Fiction 1', I guess). Then again, I am known to try and force that book onto any and everyone, given an opening to do so.

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      4. Louis M-L‏ @Lmorus Sep 20
        Replying to @drjauge @thewastedworld

        Thinking it over, I have a real soft spot for the (more classically fiction, hence probably not list-apt) philosophical novels : Glass Bead Game, Magic Mountain, Bouvard et Pécuchet.

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      5. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 20
        Replying to @Lmorus @drjauge

        All great suggestions. The philosophical novel is itself such a massive category that it deserves its own list. Speaking of Mann, the prelude to Joseph and His Brothers is an excellent example of fiction and nonfiction overlapping.

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      6. Dr. Jauge‏ @drjauge Sep 20
        Replying to @thewastedworld @Lmorus

        I'm perhaps less enamoured of theory-fiction as a contemporary genre form than some are (mostly just a taste thing), but I would love to compile a list of attempts to render more or less coherent accounts of fictional /theoreticians/, which seems like quite a specific gesture.

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      7. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 20
        Replying to @drjauge @Lmorus

        Oh that’d be an interesting project. Eliot’s Casaubon and Pynchon’s Cherrycoke come to mind.

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      8. Dr. Jauge‏ @drjauge Sep 20
        Replying to @thewastedworld @Lmorus

        Yeah, I also thought of Pynchon here. This one reason I raised O'Brien: 'de Selby' is a prime example of this technique.

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      2. Jamie Curcio‏ @Mythos_Media Sep 30
        Replying to @thewastedworld

        Nice list. I've read some of these, but not others. You might get some use out of this projecthttp://www.modernmythology.net 

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      3. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Sep 30
        Replying to @Mythos_Media

        Interesting, thanks!

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