Here's the original list, with lots of good discussions in the thread, and other books which haven't made it to the expanded list:https://twitter.com/thewastedworld/status/1017427669338607616 …
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Here's the original list, with lots of good discussions in the thread, and other books which haven't made it to the expanded list:https://twitter.com/thewastedworld/status/1017427669338607616 …
The first half of the list deals with theoretical titles which utilise fictional forms, while the second half is fiction with theoretical content. The second page occupies the middle-ground between these two, including the texts out of which "theory-fiction" emerged as a concept.
The sub-divisions are of course tentative, and many of the titles could have been placed elsewhere. The purpose here isn't to birth a genre, but to give an overview of the interzone between two established forms, where high theory is brought down to earth.https://twitter.com/thewastedworld/status/1027606571352649728 …
Recently, @ballardian spelled out the issue quite nicely: "I don’t think theory-fiction is a genre, [it] is more like an attitude [...] The world is so chaotic that no overarching theory can ever hope to explain it. So, the form itself leaks and cracks."https://twitter.com/ballardian/status/1040934692831129600 …
How did you come across Kamo No Chōmei? It seems like it is the only Far East Asian literature you have listed.
From memory, it was recommended in the first thread. Ugetsu Monogatari is also on there (thanks @LaniAlden!), although you're right that the list is strongly skewed toward Western literature.
Maybe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber … Though I am not sure where it would be placed on the theory-fiction continuum.
Possibly somewhere in the fiction-as-theory camp. It also just occurred to me that the Zhuangzi is a notable absence on the theory-as-fiction list. I guess I'll have to start on List 3.0.
Yes Zhuangzi definitely theory as fiction. Yijing/I-Ching perhaps have some poetic(ness) to its theories...
If I were to give a strict definition of theory-fiction, I would (following Fisher) restrict it to the era of late capitalism. The main reason for including earlier books was one of genealogy: Lucretius, Nietzsche, and Kafka all feed into the CCRU milieu that birthed the concept.
I'm finding myself reading Flaubert's Temptation of Saint Anthony right now and it seems it would possibly fit the list ?
Not to do the endless recommendation thing, but I would also throw Flann O'Brien's 'The Third Policeman' onto list 3.0 (in 'Theoretical Fiction 1', I guess). Then again, I am known to try and force that book onto any and everyone, given an opening to do so.
Thinking it over, I have a real soft spot for the (more classically fiction, hence probably not list-apt) philosophical novels : Glass Bead Game, Magic Mountain, Bouvard et Pécuchet.
All great suggestions. The philosophical novel is itself such a massive category that it deserves its own list. Speaking of Mann, the prelude to Joseph and His Brothers is an excellent example of fiction and nonfiction overlapping.
I'm perhaps less enamoured of theory-fiction as a contemporary genre form than some are (mostly just a taste thing), but I would love to compile a list of attempts to render more or less coherent accounts of fictional /theoreticians/, which seems like quite a specific gesture.
Oh that’d be an interesting project. Eliot’s Casaubon and Pynchon’s Cherrycoke come to mind.
Yeah, I also thought of Pynchon here. This one reason I raised O'Brien: 'de Selby' is a prime example of this technique.
Nice list. I've read some of these, but not others. You might get some use out of this projecthttp://www.modernmythology.net
Interesting, thanks!
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