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PhD student writing on Thomas Pynchon and the Posthuman Gothic. Literary & critical theory, aesthetics, ecology. All views are my own, etc. 🐙‼️🤖

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    1. Sal 10000‏ @Sal100001 Aug 8
      Replying to @thomasmurphy__

      Why is Cyclonopedia the "Platonic Idea" of TF used to denounce the whole genre? For Baudrillard, Ballard is TF. For Land, Lovecraft is TF. For CCRU, Gibson is TF. For Eshun, Sun Ra is TF. For me, Stendhal is TF (sort of kidding re that last one but also not at all kidding).

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      Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Aug 9
      Replying to @Sal100001 @thomasmurphy__

      From the other end, theorists/philosophers such as Nietzsche, Blanchot, or Haraway all use fictive devices in their writing. Even if Cyclonopedia is now the nexus around which TF as a genre has coalesced, the intersection between theory and fiction has always been well-populated.

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        2. Thomas Murphy‏ @thomasmurphy__ Aug 9
          Replying to @thewastedworld @Sal100001

          Nietzsche and Blanchot are philosophers using literary devices sure. Nietzsche also wrote a lot of poetry poetry and Blanchot some very fine novels which primed their writing for it. The word "theory" signals an allegiance to academic formalism and the "critical theory" industry

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        4. Thomas Murphy‏ @thomasmurphy__ Aug 9

          Perhaps Laruelle's "philofiction" is a more interesting way of conceptualising these experiments in thought (though I doubt it). I especially dislike this attempt to add experimental artists and philosophers to this very narrow canon. The Stendhal notion is risible.

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        5. Thomas Murphy‏ @thomasmurphy__ Aug 9
          Replying to @thomasmurphy__ @thewastedworld @Sal100001

          Beckett makes a huge number of references to Kant and Geulincx, Joyce to Bruno and Cusanus—does that me they are now de facto "theory fiction", part of this cynical post-CCRU publishing category aimed at those with an anglophone education in continental philosophy?

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        7. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Aug 9

          I tend to agree that the category of theory-fiction places fiction in the service of the academic theory-mill. Yet I also wonder what is salvageable of its original (or imagined) intent: to sever what matters in theory from its high style into the world of pulp modernism.

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        8. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Aug 9
          Replying to @thewastedworld @thomasmurphy__ @Sal100001

          The earliest conceptions of theory-fiction move in the opposite direction to their present iterations: not theory in fictive packaging, but fiction informing theory. Kafka, Burroughs, and Ballard precede and shape the thought of Deleuze and Baudrillard.

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        9. Gregory Marks‏ @thewastedworld Aug 9
          Replying to @thewastedworld @thomasmurphy__ @Sal100001

          Yes, CCRU & imitators have inadvertently returned precedence to the theoretical/academic element. But this is all the more reason to look elsewhere in the intersection of theory and fiction, for works that demolish that distinction and the idols of theory with it.

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        10. Thomas Murphy‏ @thomasmurphy__ Aug 9
          Replying to @thewastedworld @Sal100001

          Agreed on all these points.

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